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Kiwi
Say NO to Ginger Managers
If he's not ready then don't put him on the bench. Easy as that.
I'd rather have Ross back a game later, than run an increased risk of re-injury by playing him when he isn't 100%.
I think the bench for Lille and getting 20/30minutes is a reasonable target for him, Villa seems like we're rushing him or he is rushing us a bit to get back.
I'd rather have Ross back a game later, than run an increased risk of re-injury by playing him when he isn't 100%.
I think the bench for Lille and getting 20/30minutes is a reasonable target for him, Villa seems like we're rushing him or he is rushing us a bit to get back.
BluenosePaul
Banned at own request
Longer than Stones? Christ see ya in Feb Kev
BluenosePaul
Banned at own request
Also more importantly why didn't Roberto tell us about Arouna
Fairly sure he's dead.
He didn't mean longer than Stones....longer than the other three who were 'recovering well' too.
bluegirl
Player Valuation: £15m
Don't see him starting Saturday, hope he makes an appearance off the bench though.
I'd like to see him start at Lille away personally, give him freedom in a game and he can get his fitness up. Also Europa is a good chance to try the diamond formation and see it works away from the limelight a bit..
I'd like to see him start at Lille away personally, give him freedom in a game and he can get his fitness up. Also Europa is a good chance to try the diamond formation and see it works away from the limelight a bit..
toffee matt
Player Valuation: £60m
Cause he hates you and wanted to spite you
TomDixie
Player Valuation: £20m
Away from the limelight? There'll be 10000+ hardcore Evertonians there in a 50K stadium!
marty mcfly
Player Valuation: £40m
I share everyone's fears about rushing him back but given that it's been 10 weeks (?) which is a little longer than the best case scenario then I don't think that's happening. At the end of the day as fans we just don't know so we have to assume when he plays he's ready and for that reason I hope he plays Saturday.
However it will be a run out. We can't expect him to be back to his best for a good few weeks.
As for Kev. I think the rumours where that it could have been worse and shouldn't be a long one so I agree with Jacob.
However it will be a run out. We can't expect him to be back to his best for a good few weeks.
As for Kev. I think the rumours where that it could have been worse and shouldn't be a long one so I agree with Jacob.
bluegirl
Player Valuation: £15m
I know we'll be there!!! We're not going to slate him though if he has a bad game. If it's in a league game you know what the media are like!!!
bluemangroup
Player Valuation: £70m
I like that thing he does where he dribbles past a player than passes it to the feet of one of our players.
Gwladys Nights
Player Valuation: £15m
Arouna Kone never existed.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/premierleague/article4238304.ece
Roberto Martínez fears under-21 return for Ross Barkley and England stars could be detrimental
eligible to play in next summer’s European Under-21 Championships PA
ress Association
Tony Barrett, Gary Jacob
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Roberto Martínez maintains he is open minded about the idea of Ross Barkley playing in next summer’s European Under-21 Championships but the Everton manager warned that selecting full England internationals for the tournament could lead to motivational issues.
Barkley is one of several senior England squad players who will be eligible for the tournament in the Czech Republic along with Raheem Sterling, Luke Shaw, Calum Chambers, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Jack Wilshere.
Calls have been growing for England to follow Spain’s example by parachuting senior players into their under-21 squad for the Championships to allow them to gain further tournament experience and though Martínez did not reject the idea out of hand, he did allude to the potential pitfalls.
“We keep saying players need to make tournaments but it’s down to the under-21 manager [Gareth Southgate] to select the players he wants,” the Spaniard said. “Bringing the big names together gives you a better chance of succeeding but the main objective is to get into the seniors so if you’re already there what would be the stimulation and motivation to go into under-21s? It needs to be individual.
“Ross is coming back from injury so hasn’t played much football. If the tournament was now it would be a good chance for him to get some playing time. If it had been at the end of the season, where he had played consistently, he would need a bit of a break. We give too much importance to players being available.”
Arsène Wenger, the Arsenal manager, has reiterated that he believes it would be a bad idea for the likes of Wilshere, Oxlade-Chamberlain and Chambers to take part in the under-21 finals. The trio are part of England’s senior squad but are eligible to play for Southgate’s side which secured their place in the summer finals this week.
Gareth Southgate suggested that England’s chances would be stronger next June if he could select the likes of the Arsenal youngsters and Barkley. His predecessor, Stuart Pearce made a similar request before for the finals in Israel two years ago but Wenger feels that once players have stepped up a level, it is detrimental for them to play for the under-21 side. In addition, England senior side play the Republic of Ireland in a friendly in June followed by a Euro 2016 qualifier against Slovenia.
“You know my thinking on that,” Wenger said. “Once a guy has moved up to the full national team, you put him down [again to the Under-21] he is never good. Apart from on the selfish front for us when a guy has played 50 games, it is better a guy has a good rest during the summer. But most of the time, when they move down, they are not completely at their quality.”
Barkley is on the verge of a return to Everton’s first-team squad after missing the opening two months of the Barclays Premier League season as a result of a knee ligament injury sustained in training. The midfielder has an outside chance of featuring against Aston Villa on Saturday.
“Ross is really close,” Martínez confirmed. “He’s had a really good period of work and came back on Monday working with the rest of the group. Sometimes you forget how good a footballer he is, how infectious he is around the place. It is too early to see if he will be involved on Saturday but he’s not too far away.”
Roberto Martínez fears under-21 return for Ross Barkley and England stars could be detrimental
eligible to play in next summer’s European Under-21 Championships PA
ress AssociationTony Barrett, Gary Jacob
Published 1 minute ago
Roberto Martínez maintains he is open minded about the idea of Ross Barkley playing in next summer’s European Under-21 Championships but the Everton manager warned that selecting full England internationals for the tournament could lead to motivational issues.
Barkley is one of several senior England squad players who will be eligible for the tournament in the Czech Republic along with Raheem Sterling, Luke Shaw, Calum Chambers, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Jack Wilshere.
Calls have been growing for England to follow Spain’s example by parachuting senior players into their under-21 squad for the Championships to allow them to gain further tournament experience and though Martínez did not reject the idea out of hand, he did allude to the potential pitfalls.
“We keep saying players need to make tournaments but it’s down to the under-21 manager [Gareth Southgate] to select the players he wants,” the Spaniard said. “Bringing the big names together gives you a better chance of succeeding but the main objective is to get into the seniors so if you’re already there what would be the stimulation and motivation to go into under-21s? It needs to be individual.
“Ross is coming back from injury so hasn’t played much football. If the tournament was now it would be a good chance for him to get some playing time. If it had been at the end of the season, where he had played consistently, he would need a bit of a break. We give too much importance to players being available.”
Arsène Wenger, the Arsenal manager, has reiterated that he believes it would be a bad idea for the likes of Wilshere, Oxlade-Chamberlain and Chambers to take part in the under-21 finals. The trio are part of England’s senior squad but are eligible to play for Southgate’s side which secured their place in the summer finals this week.
Gareth Southgate suggested that England’s chances would be stronger next June if he could select the likes of the Arsenal youngsters and Barkley. His predecessor, Stuart Pearce made a similar request before for the finals in Israel two years ago but Wenger feels that once players have stepped up a level, it is detrimental for them to play for the under-21 side. In addition, England senior side play the Republic of Ireland in a friendly in June followed by a Euro 2016 qualifier against Slovenia.
“You know my thinking on that,” Wenger said. “Once a guy has moved up to the full national team, you put him down [again to the Under-21] he is never good. Apart from on the selfish front for us when a guy has played 50 games, it is better a guy has a good rest during the summer. But most of the time, when they move down, they are not completely at their quality.”
Barkley is on the verge of a return to Everton’s first-team squad after missing the opening two months of the Barclays Premier League season as a result of a knee ligament injury sustained in training. The midfielder has an outside chance of featuring against Aston Villa on Saturday.
“Ross is really close,” Martínez confirmed. “He’s had a really good period of work and came back on Monday working with the rest of the group. Sometimes you forget how good a footballer he is, how infectious he is around the place. It is too early to see if he will be involved on Saturday but he’s not too far away.”
bluemangroup
Player Valuation: £70m
The greatest trick Kone ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
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