Ross Barkley

[Chang Elephant]

Drop freaking Naismith, play him at number 10, stick 2 wingers either side of him, 2 holding midfielders and tell him to take the piss.

correct

He is a much better player than Albert Quixall ever was if he ever existed

 

[streeky]

The lad is in a bad moment of form but was boss against YB

 

[Christiffa25]

The lad is in a bad moment of form but was boss against YB

It's roberto's fault tho. Bringing him off against Leicester was poor management. Players like him often have 1 moment of brilliance to win you a game, even if for 80 mins they have been average.

He's getting no real chance to play himself into form or build confidence. Basically play boss or your being hooked ross lad. Not ideal.

 

[Elong]

It's roberto's fault tho. Bringing him off against Leicester was poor management. Players like him often have 1 moment of brilliance to win you a game, even if for 80 mins they have been average.

He's getting no real chance to play himself into form or build confidence. Basically play boss or your being hooked ross lad. Not ideal.

Moyes loaned him to Leeds.

 

[Christiffa25]

Moyes loaned him to Leeds.

Not sure what the means or matters tbh. He hadn't broke into our first team really back then (although he should of done)

RM has had him all last season, used him brilliantly, seen what he adds to the team and now is pretty much hindering him.

 

[MACCA75]

It's roberto's fault tho. Bringing him off against Leicester was poor management. Players like him often have 1 moment of brilliance to win you a game, even if for 80 mins they have been average.

He's getting no real chance to play himself into form or build confidence. Basically play boss or your being hooked ross lad. Not ideal.

He 'often' has a moment of brilliance to win a game? Hmm must have missed all those this season.

 

[GwladysBlue]

Drop freaking Naismith, play him at number 10, stick 2 wingers either side of him, 2 holding midfielders and tell him to take the piss.

This. Naismith is an average player yet seems to be first on the team sheet.

I'm absolutely fed up with us seemingly always having to put up with these workhorse type players in our starting eleven, whilst better players remain on the bench/get substituted.

 

[stu f]

This. Naismith is an average player yet seems to be first on the team sheet.

I'm absolutely fed up with us seemingly always having to put up with these workhorse type players in our starting eleven, whilst better players remain on the bench/get substituted.

Agree to an extent, but it is also about balance - he should not be starting against the likes of Leicester, where we need creativity + speed to break down blanket defences (yes, i know he scored), but against City he was superb, due to his energy. Until we raise the overall quality of the team, he still has a role to play

 

[stu f]

Really brought home the deficiencies in Ross's game watching how all the Barcelona players pressed last night to win the ball back, then rarely gave it away once they had. With the ball at his feet, he's one of the fastest players we've got, but without it he doesn't look bothered. Because of his potential, i usually forgive him that, but last night was an eye-opener. Hope he was watching!

 

[mkrudden]

It's roberto's fault tho. Bringing him off against Leicester was poor management. Players like him often have 1 moment of brilliance to win you a game, even if for 80 mins they have been average.

He's getting no real chance to play himself into form or build confidence. Basically play boss or your being hooked ross lad. Not ideal.

But he was dreadful against Leicester mate. I agree that players need games to find form but you have to at least contribute when it's not going for you by putting a shift in.

Love Ross but the substitutions on Sunday were the right ones imo

 

[marty mcfly]

It's roberto's fault tho. Bringing him off against Leicester was poor management. Players like him often have 1 moment of brilliance to win you a game, even if for 80 mins they have been average.

He's getting no real chance to play himself into form or build confidence. Basically play boss or your being hooked ross lad. Not ideal.

Actually I think what Roberto is trying to say to him is "Put some effort in or you're being hooked".

As for creating that moment of magic. The equalizing goal came from Atsu's cross and the first goal was scored by Naismith. All players are capable of producing a "moment of magic". It's also important what he does the rest of the time. He's far too static. He should look at how that Barca midfield and attack played last night, constantly moving, constantly showing for the ball, constantly having a picture in their head of who they want to pass to before they receive it instead of passing back to the same player it came from. He's an attacking player who's responsibility is to be the conduit for all our attacks to go through and this season he's playing far too safe.

I'm not sure if it's simply a case that his footballing intelligence doesn't match his ability, fear or lack of effort. I suspect a bit of all three but he needs extra time and work on the training ground to get it right.

However what he doesn't need is the fans getting on his back.

 

[mrb85]

Actually I think what Roberto is trying to say to him is "Put some effort in or you're being hooked".

As for creating that moment of magic. The equalizing goal came from Atsu's cross and the first goal was scored by Naismith. All players are capable of producing a "moment of magic". It's also important what he does the rest of the time. He's far too static. He should look at how that Barca midfield and attack played last night, constantly moving, constantly showing for the ball, constantly having a picture in their head of who they want to pass to before they receive it instead of passing back to the same player it came from. He's an attacking player who's responsibility is to be the conduit for all our attacks to go through and this season he's playing far too safe.

I'm not sure if it's simply a case that his footballing intelligence doesn't match his ability, fear or lack of effort. I suspect a bit of all three but he needs extra time and work on the training ground to get it right.

However what he doesn't need is the fans getting on his back.

Can we nail this myth. The crowd, any crowd, will groan whenever mistakes are made, and whoever is making them. Any player making lots of mistakes will generate lots of groans. Ross makes lots of mistakes. He is certainly NOT getting booed and all Blues are willing him to get his full game together. We are as frustrated as he no doubt is himself over his underperforming.

 

[MickA]

Actually I think what Roberto is trying to say to him is "Put some effort in or you're being hooked".

As for creating that moment of magic. The equalizing goal came from Atsu's cross and the first goal was scored by Naismith. All players are capable of producing a "moment of magic". It's also important what he does the rest of the time. He's far too static. He should look at how that Barca midfield and attack played last night, constantly moving, constantly showing for the ball, constantly having a picture in their head of who they want to pass to before they receive it instead of passing back to the same player it came from. He's an attacking player who's responsibility is to be the conduit for all our attacks to go through and this season he's playing far too safe.

I'm not sure if it's simply a case that his footballing intelligence doesn't match his ability, fear or lack of effort. I suspect a bit of all three but he needs extra time and work on the training ground to get it right.

However what he doesn't need is the fans getting on his back.

This is spot on. Read in Alan Balls book that he always knew what to do before receiving the ball, knew where opponents and teammates were and his touch and body position bought him that extra split second.

Too often Barkley seems to receive the ball with his body closed to the play and seemingly has already made his mind up to pass the ball straight back to where it's come from. I don't think (and hope) it's not a talent issue and more of a mental one but he needs to take mush more responsibility that he is currently.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

He'll be Boss

My view on this has never wavered

 

[StatesideBlue3]

This is spot on. Read in Alan Balls book that he always knew what to do before receiving the ball, knew where opponents and teammates were and his touch and body position bought him that extra split second.

Too often Barkley seems to receive the ball with his body closed to the play and seemingly has already made his mind up to pass the ball straight back to where it's come from. I don't think (and hope) it's not a talent issue and more of a mental one but he needs to take mush more responsibility that he is currently.

Pretty much said this a few pages ago. I think he'll come good though.