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Ross Barkley

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So do I
But they got 6 marks against Italy
For being very average and delph was terrible
If Barkley had played like them he would have got 3 and 4 and been slagged by the cockney media

I think henderson is bang average
But you wouldn't think so according the the media

I stopped caring what the meeja said sometime around 1989 mate.
 
Is there a reason for Barkley not being in shape to go a full 90? Just watched the MOTD highlights, and he has his hands on his knees in the first half. What gives on the conditioning?
 
Is there a reason for Barkley not being in shape to go a full 90? Just watched the MOTD highlights, and he has his hands on his knees in the first half. What gives on the conditioning?
He had his hands on his knees loads of times. I commented on it in the match thread and that was in the first half.

I think it's been his problem all season. He doesn't look fit and as a result in the past he's been jogging around and not running to find space.

Martinez really has to sort out our training because this season there's been times when one or more players have had this issue. It's not just Barkley and since that's the case the manager has to bare the responsibility.
 

The Internet, especially footy forums, is great for discussion about all different aspects of the "beautiful game". But posters and pundits suffer from a similar tendency, which is to deduce patterns from just one match. So, "sexy football" Ruud might have a point if looking at Ross over a 12-month period. But he's not doing that. I doubt he has watched many Everton matches at all in that time.
 
I think it's been his problem all season. He doesn't look fit and as a result in the past he's been jogging around and not running to find space.

Martinez really has to sort out our training because this season there's been times when one or more players have had this issue. It's not just Barkley and since that's the case the manager has to bare the responsibility.

Spot on, I think that's been the main issue all season, the players aren't fit enough. Last season they were, and it showed in the games. This season we've conceded goals because of it and the all round general play has suffered. Players can't move in to space, don't close down and make basic technical mistakes because of tiredness.

That should never happen at this level, the manager has a lot to answer for in this regard. I also wonder if that's why so many players are suffering muscle injuries, because they're putting too much pressure on them in games when they're not in the right condition.
 

He had his hands on his knees loads of times. I commented on it in the match thread and that was in the first half.

I think it's been his problem all season. He doesn't look fit and as a result in the past he's been jogging around and not running to find space.

Martinez really has to sort out our training because this season there's been times when one or more players have had this issue. It's not just Barkley and since that's the case the manager has to bare the responsibility.

I had noticed this as well. I think there are a few reasons why the team look knackered. The first is that we have taken the Europa very seriously and pretty much played our first team in both Europe and in the league. We haven't really used our squad well enough. In addition, we had a lot of easy wins last season whereas this season, every game has been a battle. I do however agree that Martinez needs to have a look at his training because the above excuses are not acceptable for an ambitious team.

For Ross specifically, he got injured at the worst time possible and I don't think he has had time to catch up fitness wise. I honestly believe that this is the main reason why he has had such a difficult season. Next year he will be unplayable.
 
I think we will see the best of him next season, too. Hopefully he will still be with us. Need to keep him, Garbutt, Stones, Macca, Rom and build around them
 

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