Ross Barkley

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Muzumbu said:
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Well it made me laugh anyway!
 

Adversus said:
He's best in a Toure kind of position. He's a no 10 but not a small tricky no 10 obviously.
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Yeah I guess that's more of how I see him. Him and Pogba are the two young players in the world who could most naturally replace a world class play like Yaya because they are both just as capable of playing slightly deeper when the game requires it. The have the legs to burst forward with pace and power.
 

The Other Blues said:
Thankfully for City, this summer was the last time that UEFA were likely to be able to sanction us as our P&L at the end of next season will be incredibly healthy. In actual fact we passed FFP this summer also, only UEFA decided via pressure from the other PL clubs to shift the goalposts just enough to ensure they could slap us on the wrist. IF you look at the sanctions they aren't particularly heavy. The "net" spent we can have this summer of 49 million pounds is totally reasonable based on the squad we have. We have to have a wage freeze in terms of players registered in the CL, when in actual fact our wages have gone down consistently over the last 24 months as players on the stupid early Abu Dhabi contracts come off the wage bill, and the new contracts we are negotiating with players are on lower basic wages with an increase in performance related pay. Hence for example Nasri's new contract is actually 40k less a week than his original City contract. When you couple the decrease in the wage bill with the exponential growth of the club off the field, and you look at the turnover v. expenditure figures for last year and the projected figures for the forthcoming season, the picture is clear. City will be able to spend circa 100 million per summer from next summer without breaking a sweat with regards FFP.

It's an interesting point of view you have (that FFP is good for Everton). I'm not entirely sure how you've come to that conclusion. Yes, if you continue to punch well above your weight whilst not spending more than you earn, you are in a better position than clubs like QPR who have invested heavily and not gotten anywhere. However I'm curious as to how you'd view FFP if you slipped a little further down the table next season and needed investment. As glorious an ideal as it is to imagine a team of home grown youngsters mixed with clever signings for not much money to challenge the elite, the reality is that that is an almost impossible task. Especially when each time you develop a player of true quality, the pressure to sell becomes immense precisely because of the way your club is run.

Just to bring it back to RB. There's a bit of a contradiction in terms of the way he's viewed on here. On the one hand you guys pretty much all think that he's unsellable and City (or indeed anyone else) would need to pay 50 million pounds plus for him. Yet on the other you also all say that he can't demand 100k + a week and should be given a contract of 50k a week or something. C'mon, I don't buy that for a second. I rate the guy as much as all of you do. I think he's got it all and I think that it's not a case of potential with him, the talent is there for all to see already. Other than his decision making under pressure, I can't find a weakness to his game. On that basis, the fact he's on 15k a week is crazy. The fact his contract has less than 2 years to run is crazier. And the fact that Everton haven't managed to get him to commit to fresh terms should be worry regardless of whether City or anyone is interested this summer or not. If I were Kenwright I'd tell the kid and his agents to name their price on a new 5 year contract and I'd even give them a set buy out figure.
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You're still under investigation over your sponsorship deal and it not being to market rate. Also since its obviously from a related company - owned by your owners.

As are United now for their Adidas sham contract.


Both of you are under the microscope and that isn't going to change any time soon since the European authorities have a mandate and are pressuring UEFA to do something about the way football is being run.


I don't believe a single word a City supporter would come on here and try and tell Everton we can't compete.

Do you think we're stupid or something?

"Especially when each time you develop a player of true quality, the pressure to sell becomes immense precisely because of the way your club is run."

What ???
 
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bizzaro said:
You're still under investigation over your sponsorship deal and it not being to market rate. Also since its obviously from a related company - owned by your owners.

As are United now for their Adidas sham contract.


Both of you are under the microscope and that isn't going to change any time soon since the European authorities have a mandate and are pressuring UEFA to do something about the way football is being run.


I don't believe a single word a City supporter would come on here and try and tell Everton we can't compete.

Do you think we're stupid or something?

"Especially when each time you develop a player of true quality, the pressure to sell becomes immense precisely because of the way your club is run."

What ???
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"European authorities have a mandate and are pressuring UEFA"

Sorry but you haven't the first clue what you're talking about. FFP is on the line of falling foul of so many EU anti competition and restraint of trade laws it's not even funny. The EU would be delighted if FFP went away, unless you think that governments hate guys like Mansour turning up and paying hundreds of millions in taxes on the money they pump into their football clubs.

And as I said, UEFA can get out as many microscopes as they want. As of next summer we'll be turning the type of profit which will allow us to spend 100 million a summer if needs be without having any problems.
 
Ross Barkley's had one good season under his belt and the rumours abound about him leaving. How many years did you get out of Rooney? How many did you get out Jeffers? When players reach a certain level of hype, especially English players, they will move. I didn't create these imbalances in football so there's no point in getting arsey because you don't like hearing the truth.
 
Unfortunately for City or anyone else who wants him we have no need to sell these days and are safe in the knowledge that as long as he signs a new contract his price will very likely increase year on year, perhaps significantly, which means selling him makes no sense at all
 

The Other Blues said:
Ross Barkley's had one good season under his belt and the rumours abound about him leaving. How many years did you get out of Rooney? How many did you get out Jeffers? When players reach a certain level of hype, especially English players, they will move. I didn't create these imbalances in football so there's no point in getting arsey because you don't like hearing the truth.
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Oh, you were doing very well.

But the main difference is that we are no longer fighting relegation and creditors. We may need to sell the boy, but only if he refuses to sign a contract. We have no fiscal need to sell.

If Ross decides he doesn't want to stay, then fair play, we'll sell up, because anything else would be stupid, but let's not pretend that we must sell him for anything short of that.
 
The Other Blues said:
Ross Barkley's had one good season under his belt and the rumours abound about him leaving. How many years did you get out of Rooney? How many did you get out Jeffers? When players reach a certain level of hype, especially English players, they will move. I didn't create these imbalances in football so there's no point in getting arsey because you don't like hearing the truth.
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IRO1977 said:
Unfortunately for City or anyone else who wants him we have no need to sell these days and are safe in the knowledge that as long as he signs a new contract his price will very likely increase year on year, perhaps significantly, which means selling him makes no sense at all
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How long you going to keep a world class player without CL football. Realistically.
 
The Other Blues said:
"European authorities have a mandate and are pressuring UEFA"

Sorry but you haven't the first clue what you're talking about. FFP is on the line of falling foul of so many EU anti competition and restraint of trade laws it's not even funny. The EU would be delighted if FFP went away, unless you think that governments hate guys like Mansour turning up and paying hundreds of millions in taxes on the money they pump into their football clubs.

And as I said, UEFA can get out as many microscopes as they want. As of next summer we'll be turning the type of profit which will allow us to spend 100 million a summer if needs be without having any problems.
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Interesting that. In global terms, well in UK terms as well, the City brand is nothing compared to Utd, Chelsea Arsenal. Probably Liverpool as well come to that. So, based on the fact, (I think), that you have had huge losses, I know due to the regeneration etc etc, where is this massive profit coming from?
 

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