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Ross Barkley

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Can't believe this is actually still going on, I want Ross to stay but buying Sigurdsson is surely the death knell on his Everton career. I think Spurs is where Ross will end up but in true Levy style they won't make a move until deadline day. I almost wish Koeman had stuck to his ultimatum and sold Barks after he didn't sign his contract before July to avoid this complete mess.

Can't sell him of nobody bids though can we?
 

I'm not having the comparisons of Ross to Rooney I've seen around. Rooney was a world class talent and everyone could see it right from the start, the club was in the absolute pits at the time with an awful side and nothing to invest cash wise. Rooney was a kid who had the an enormous amount of pressure on him and was supposed to be our saviour! He left for Man Utd and won every single trophy he could possibly win at club level and while I'm not going to defend an alleged boyhood blue ditching us it's completely different scenario with Ross.

Barkley doesn't have a hundredth of the tallent Rooney had. He's been given far more patience and leway then any non local lad wouldn't of been afforded for the almost unceasing mistakes He makes. He entered a side with comparatively little pressure on him compared to Rooney yet has failed to improve at a high level on a consistent basis. He doesn't want to leave a club faceing a relegation battle with no end in sight, he wants to leave a club that's in the best position it's been for almost thirty years and is going palaces. He doesn't want to leave his boyhood club for professional pride and the chance to win everything because he wouldn't be going to Spurs if that was the case, let alone rot on their bench. Rooney was by a county mile our most valuble player at the time, Barkley isn't even close to that.

Even at this stage I still want Ross to sign a new contract, stay with us while we finally go back to the big time and reach his full potential with us but if he's adamant he wants to go there can be no coming back from that, not for a player of Barkleys standards. If he wants to go then he either leaves or rots with the kids and ruins his chances of playing at the world cup, his choice. If no club wants to pay our asking price the solution for Ross is simple, sign a new contract get your head down and work hard to improve and if your still desperate for a move somebody will pay if you do enough.

This whole episode has dragged on for long enough now to show Barkley's feelings and while he might yet sign I doubt he will. He's going to massively damage if not destroy his own career all out of petulance.
 
I'm not having the comparisons of Ross to Rooney I've seen around. Rooney was a world class talent and everyone could see it right from the start, the club was in the absolute pits at the time with an awful side and nothing to invest cash wise. Rooney was a kid who had the an enormous amount of pressure on him and was supposed to be our saviour! He left for Man Utd and won every single trophy he could possibly win at club level and while I'm not going to defend an alleged boyhood blue ditching us it's completely different scenario with Ross.

Barkley doesn't have a hundredth of the tallent Rooney had. He's been given far more patience and leway then any non local lad wouldn't of been afforded for the almost unceasing mistakes He makes. He entered a side with comparatively little pressure on him compared to Rooney yet has failed to improve at a high level on a consistent basis. He doesn't want to leave a club faceing a relegation battle with no end in sight, he wants to leave a club that's in the best position it's been for almost thirty years and is going palaces. He doesn't want to leave his boyhood club for professional pride and the chance to win everything because he wouldn't be going to Spurs if that was the case, let alone rot on their bench. Rooney was by a county mile our most valuble player at the time, Barkley isn't even close to that.

Even at this stage I still want Ross to sign a new contract, stay with us while we finally go back to the big time and reach his full potential with us but if he's adamant he wants to go there can be no coming back from that, not for a player of Barkleys standards. If he wants to go then he either leaves or rots with the kids and ruins his chances of playing at the world cup, his choice. If no club wants to pay our asking price the solution for Ross is simple, sign a new contract get your head down and work hard to improve and if your still desperate for a move somebody will pay if you do enough.

This whole episode has dragged on for long enough now to show Barkley's feelings and while he might yet sign I doubt he will. He's going to massively damage if not destroy his own career all out of petulance.

I actually don't think the talent gap between the 2 was that wide. The big difference was that Rooney had a real winners mentality whilst Ross is mentally fragile
 
I actually don't think the talent gap between the 2 was that wide. The big difference was that Rooney had a real winners mentality whilst Ross is mentally fragile
I can't agree mate, i think the talent gap is a chasm. Winning mentality is what makes Rooney a much better player then Ross to this day when he has nothing left to prove.
 

I'm not having the comparisons of Ross to Rooney I've seen around. Rooney was a world class talent and everyone could see it right from the start, the club was in the absolute pits at the time with an awful side and nothing to invest cash wise. Rooney was a kid who had the an enormous amount of pressure on him and was supposed to be our saviour! He left for Man Utd and won every single trophy he could possibly win at club level and while I'm not going to defend an alleged boyhood blue ditching us it's completely different scenario with Ross.

Barkley doesn't have a hundredth of the tallent Rooney had. He's been given far more patience and leway then any non local lad wouldn't of been afforded for the almost unceasing mistakes He makes. He entered a side with comparatively little pressure on him compared to Rooney yet has failed to improve at a high level on a consistent basis. He doesn't want to leave a club faceing a relegation battle with no end in sight, he wants to leave a club that's in the best position it's been for almost thirty years and is going palaces. He doesn't want to leave his boyhood club for professional pride and the chance to win everything because he wouldn't be going to Spurs if that was the case, let alone rot on their bench. Rooney was by a county mile our most valuble player at the time, Barkley isn't even close to that.

Even at this stage I still want Ross to sign a new contract, stay with us while we finally go back to the big time and reach his full potential with us but if he's adamant he wants to go there can be no coming back from that, not for a player of Barkleys standards. If he wants to go then he either leaves or rots with the kids and ruins his chances of playing at the world cup, his choice. If no club wants to pay our asking price the solution for Ross is simple, sign a new contract get your head down and work hard to improve and if your still desperate for a move somebody will pay if you do enough.

This whole episode has dragged on for long enough now to show Barkley's feelings and while he might yet sign I doubt he will. He's going to massively damage if not destroy his own career all out of petulance.

This. All day.
 
I want Ross to stay. However, you can't let a player/agent put a gun to the Clubs head. He's far from our best player, and far from our player with the most potential....he's just a potentially very good player. If there's no desire to be here then best for all concerned that he mans up and states very clearly that he wants to go.
Holding your boyhood club to ransom is disgraceful.
 

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