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2017/18 Ross Barkley

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4737carlin said:
This is what i dont understand, why were Chelsea even talking to him? Makes no sense, if anything I wonder if he backed out because Chelsea had some terms he didnt like, i dunno, but its weird Chelsea trying to buy a player now they cant play anyway, just a shame it didnt go through, let him be someone else's problem not ours
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If you look at their squad they don't appear to have too many home grown players. I suspect that s the reason. No disrespect to Danny Drinkwater but he's no top 6 first teamer. Has the feel of a Scott Sinclair to Man City home grown quota signing.
 
Llyrap said:
If you look at their squad they don't appear to have too many home grown players. I suspect that s the reason. No disrespect to Danny Drinkwater but he's no top 6 first teamer. Has the feel of a Scott Sinclair to Man City home grown quota signing.
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Indeed.

And if Oxlade-Chamberlain had signed for them they wouldn't have bothered going for Ross.

This is all about Chelsea and their "home grown quota".
 
Khalekan said:
Indeed.

And if Oxlade-Chamberlain had signed for them they wouldn't have bothered going for Ross.

This is all about Chelsea and their "home grown quota".
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wonder if we're going for something similar to their "buy all of the best 17 year olds and stick them in Arnhem to sell at 23" approach, only with English players. makes sense I suppose - you can pretty much double the actual value of any English player on the strength of his passport alone.

and we won't ever be able the play them all, not least because the supporters (WHY WON"T SOMEONE THINK OF THE NET SPEND!??!?") would get too irritable with only the kids coming up, and without having biannual transfer "statements" to mollify them
 
After thinking about it I have changed my mind about Ross. OK, he wants to leave and appears to have shafted the club but, when you think about it, why should he go somewhere he really didn't want to go in the first place? We all know he wants to go to Spurs. Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - er, scratch that, the song just popped into my head! Maybe it's because he thinks Pochettino will develop him, maybe it's because he thinks he'll get more playing time, maybe it's because he just prefers the club. But when you think about it, who of us would go to work for a company who our current bosses decide we should go - or our agent decides we should go? (Anyone got an agent by the way?)

We all have a right to change our mind after all.
 
QUOTE="APN_EFC, post: 5730600, member: 39400"]Does anyone know how it works with day to day life at Finch Farm? I mean with Barkley, he goes in for training, then I assume the players talk to each other, have breaks, lunch, drills? team building activities? How does Ross and other players who are on the move, talk about future plans and ambitions and motivate each other? How does basic communication happen if nobody knows what he's planning? Would love to know if anyone has info on how a typical day is ?[/QUOTE]

Same question I asked last week ^

and also look at this; does he just stay at home till January?

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/sep/01/premier-league-van-dijk-coutinho-sanchez
 

Bilko said:
why is he mentally weak ?, because he is probably aware he wouldn't get in the team. that doesn't make him mentally weak, that probably makes him a realist. when I went to work there wasn't one person who thought he'd get in the team.and again, it seems folks can't get around the fact the lad didn't want to sign for Chelsea. he isn't obliged to sign for a club he doesn't want to play for,surely that makes sense to folks.

ok, the crux is that he's cost the club millions by not signing a new contract, btw nobody knows for sure after yesterday whether he will or he won't, and lets not pretend that all the fault lies with the player, there is a management in place to deal with issues and contracts. they have seemingly messed up as much as anyone, it wasn't like they didn't see it coming, the injury hasn't helped either party or any potential buyers i'd have thought.

simple truth is a player didn't want to sign for a particular club for whatever reasons he had. he hasn't done it to spite anybody, he's not going to get pushed into a club because it suits his old employers, simple as,
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Realist really? What I read from his action is that he might be 50:50 about going to Chelsea. Then like his performance on the pitch, he was being indecisive. As some reports said he went over to London to have medical but pull off in the middle of it. Face it, it's either his agent got an assurance from Spurs for getting him on cheap or Chelsea asked him to stay put because he was injured until Decemeber, then they came back with a crap offer in January.

Now you ain't a realist afterall. Koeman signed a lot of replacements and Moshiri said in the Sky interview that he is the 4th choice to play the no.10 position or something. What makes you think he will sign a new deal all of a sudden, having stay mute and declining to sign one for 6 months? However, I do agree the board shares the blame for the current situation, if he isn't signing a new deal, sell him last summer...now we are risking it and I do believe the board tried to amend by forcing a move to Chelsea.

I have to be honest on this, he was screwing the club big time here by rejecting to join the PL Champion. He may set his sight on Spurs since early last season and while the cheeky b Spurs won't bid £35m, his action put his proclaimed boyhood club of losing a potential £50m (if he has a long contract) in today's market. As an Evertonian, don't you feel that is digesting act? It has done Everton zero favour.
 
longers said:
So you think he should value getting Everton a bigger fee over choosing the club thats right for him ?

That seems the be the general view of our fans at the moment.

Maybe he's not the only one being selfish..
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John stones did it before he signed for us... was told that if he signed a contract then Barnsley would be able to negotiate a better fee... his response ? "Where do I sign?"
 

“The contract says that we are hoping to push on and win silverware. It shows the club is keeping its best players like it did last season when Leighton Baines, Seamus Coleman and a few others signed new deals. That brings stability and shows we want to push on together.

“I realise the importance of signing because I remember how I felt when Wayne left. He was one of the best players in the team and we thought we could push on with him at Everton. When he left we were all down as Evertonians. I just wanted to sign and hopefully we can push Everton on together.” lolChanged his tune there the bad Wally.
 

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