Harryflashman
Player Valuation: £60m
I'm loathe to ever give them credit but the RS do quite a good job of getting players to sign extensions to their deals , keeping the club in a strong position .
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I'm loathe to ever give them credit but the RS do quite a good job of getting players to sign extensions to their deals , keeping the club in a strong position .
So basically the club has to offer any player with 2 years left a new contract now just in case this happens? Bit of a waste of wages. Plus there's absolutely nothing concrete on when he was even offered this new one. People keep talking like it was only after the season ended but there's no evidence this is true.
Sure we could have offered him £100k+ the same summer a new manager came in but likewise maybe at the time the club never worried this situation would happen considering how much Ross apparently loved it here.
paulf
Player Valuation: £8m
Nobody bar a few people know what's gone on..it's all hyperbole on here in the for and against Barkley camps..having watched nearly all the games he's played home and away can't say I'm bothered.. quite looking forward to Everton in the coming seasons. It will take time and won't happen overnight ..on an aside Think the Vladic signing will turn out to be excellent.and what we .want instead of Barkley ..all about opinions innit
Barnfred 55
Player Valuation: £80m
We didn't want to sell him last summer. We didn't want to sell him this summer. We have been put in position whereby we HAVE to sell him or run the risk of him leaving for nothing in 12 months.
However, with a key player like Barkley you want to know the players intentions at an early stage. You don't allow a player such as Barkley, somebody who could very well be coveted by other top clubs, to go into the last 2 years of his contract without negotiating new terms. At the very least you get an indication of the players commitment to the club. We did it with Lukaku and we should have done it with Barkley too.
This is not me just having a go at the club. It's standard good practice within the game. Wenger at Arsenal is now getting heavily criticised for not doing something similar with the likes of Ozil, Sanchez and AOC. I see no reason why it should be any different for Everton.
Had we done so, either Barkley would have re-signed, or we would have been in a position where we had more time to make a decision on what to do with him, and had that decision been to sell him we would have been in a much stronger position to negotiate a better fee as we did with Lukaku. As it happens, the delay has been exacerbated by the players injury which now seems to have also scuppered plans to sell him altogether.
I'm not one of those who puts any blame on the club for Barkley not signing a new contract. By all accounts it was a good offer and at the time it was offered I believe it would have made him the highest paid player at the club. It was his decision not to sign. Nobody else's.
But @Tubey was right in my opinion. By not starting negotiations 12 months earlier the club have effectively contributed to the significant devaluation of one of its assets.
Re: bold part. How do we know we didn't have discussions with him last summer and he said he was happy and indicated he would sign a new contract when offered one? Again, no one on this forum really knows what's happened/not happened over the past year.
davids
Player Valuation: £70m
And yet there were forum members saying we should have made Lukaku stay this season.
DrEFC
Player Valuation: £40m
Should always be if you play 10-15 games per season your contract gets extended by a year in the final year to protect clubs from this (this now being required due to astronomical fees of players). It would force both sides to sort thing amicably.
If the team didn't want the player, well he gets to go on a free, cos you're not playing him, possibly in January if been fit aug-jan & not selected- & still entitled to loyalty bonus.
Player wants to go, the buying club will need to pay a fee still- say a minimal of a years remaining contract plus development fee if was a youth player.
The player wants to be unprofessional & refuses to be selected. Well he doesn't train with the first team and he's not getting game time. He's wasted a year of his career- possibly missing out on a transfer or national team duty.
I may be a bit delirious today, but it made sense in my head.
If the team didn't want the player, well he gets to go on a free, cos you're not playing him, possibly in January if been fit aug-jan & not selected- & still entitled to loyalty bonus.
Player wants to go, the buying club will need to pay a fee still- say a minimal of a years remaining contract plus development fee if was a youth player.
The player wants to be unprofessional & refuses to be selected. Well he doesn't train with the first team and he's not getting game time. He's wasted a year of his career- possibly missing out on a transfer or national team duty.
I may be a bit delirious today, but it made sense in my head.
If he really gave a crap about the club and protecting us financially he'd sign a new 1 year deal so we could sell him Jan/Summer for a good price.
Barnfred 55
Player Valuation: £80m
We don't is the honest answer. But as a club, we should have still tried to tie the player down to an agreement despite his promises. It's possible that we have been trying to for 18 months, but all the indications coming out of the club are that negotiations only started earlier this year.
We're not talking about all players here mate. Only the key ones who could possibly be poached by top clubs. It's as much about protecting our own business interests as anything. We've done it consistently with other top players in recent years. Fellaini, Jagielka when Arse were sniffing around, Baines after the Man Utd interest, Coleman in the Spring after he broke his leg. Even McCarthy. All had at least 2 years remaining on their previous contracts. As I said, we tried to do it with Lukaku too. But apparently not Barkley.
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Part of me thought Ross had got to Chelsea and realised he wanted to stay and therefore will consider more over the weekend and sign a new contract next week. We will know by Wednesday when everyone is back though I don't think I want him to stay as despite his talent I don't think he will ever be decisive enough to reach the next level
Kev The Rat
Player Valuation: £70m
Tbh I think the reason we didn't approach him about a new contract last summer or earlier was the fact that he was playing very poorly in large parts and was probably not seen as deserving of a new bumper deal.
It was only really in the second half of last season that he looked very good.
I actually think his absence this season has hit home just how crucial he can be.
It was only really in the second half of last season that he looked very good.
I actually think his absence this season has hit home just how crucial he can be.
Barnfred 55
Player Valuation: £80m
Think Koeman himself intimated that it was an option too. But at least we knew where we stood with the player. So the club was in a position to make a decision to sell now for a higher price, or get another 12 months out of the player and sell at a lower price then.
Kev The Rat
Player Valuation: £70m
I was one of them. And I believe we should have. But that's for a different thread .
4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
We have lost one game away at the Champions, while at the same time a lot of new players have been coming into the team, in short, haven't even noticed he wasnt on the bench
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