2017/18 Ross Barkley

[Blue_Berry]

Barkley played EXACTLY as he had in the past. It's my personal opinion that Koeman added anything to RB's game.

Fixed that for ya Dave

 

[davek]

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/page-1736#post-5248983

lol

Is that supposed to answer my question about defending RB from those attacks on his ability to take instruction? To link to a post you made in February of this year when no one was on his back about leaving and having ridiculous pot shots at him?

Maybe you can find one from the last three months when it's been obvious he was leaving? Show us how you stood out and went against the grain in defending Barkley's improvements this season?

 

[technojoe]

There will be no bidding war: Spurs have Everton over a barrel because this club didn't do it's job in securing him with 18 months on his contract.

Offer him an improved contract he declines. What else csn the club do?

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Is that supposed to answer my question about defending RB from those attacks on his ability to take instruction? To link to a post you made in February of this year when no one was on his back about leaving and having ridiculous pot shots at him?

Maybe you can find one from the last three months when it's been obvious he was leaving? Show us how you stood out and went against the grain in defending Barkley's improvements this season?

Embarrassing for you that the post in question was me talking about his improvement and you denying that it had happened.

You chat that much wham you're the easiest vault on the forum

 

[davek]

Offer him an improved contract he declines. What else csn the club do?

Whatever was offered - and you dont know how much of an improved offer it was, none of us do - whilst seeing a manager telling everyone you are a bit of a failure thus far in your career.

I wonder why a player with CL clubs as options to go to wouldn't extend his contract under those auspicious circumstances?

 

[davek]

Embarrassing for you that the post in question was me talking about his improvement and you denying that it had happened.

You chat that much wham you're the easiest vault on the forum

...so there are no such defences of the player in the teeth of this attack on him?

Ok.

 

[Moonlight dribbler]

Whatever was offered - and you dont know how much of an improved offer it was, none of us do - whilst seeing a manager telling everyone you are a bit of a failure thus far in your career.

I wonder why a player with CL clubs as options to go to wouldn't extend his contract under those auspicious circumstances?

He will be at West Brom in 2 seasons. He is right to go and sit on Spurs bench, because that is as good as it will get.

 

[a bell maul]

There was an article posted somewhere today describing Ross' 'issues' with Liverpool gangsters. It speculated that this may play part in his desire to leave. Probably BS but interesting that it was mentioned.

 

[Blue_Berry]

Whatever was offered - and you dont know how much of an improved offer it was, none of us do - whilst seeing a manager telling everyone you are a bit of a failure thus far in your career.

I wonder why a player with CL clubs as options to go to wouldn't extend his contract under those auspicious circumstances?

Options, Dave? Plural? I thought you said a few posts back that the management had stuffed this up so royally that Spurs are about to tear us a new one?

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

...so there are no such defences of the player in the teeth of this attack on him?

Ok.

My view on him as a player is there for all to see David. I was saying how much he'd improved his all round game last season, you denied it had happened. As that would have meant giving Koeman some credit

My view on his decision to leave has nothing to do with his performances last season. People differ in their view on him, that's how it works, he divides opinion.

 

[davek]

He will be at West Brom in 2 seasons. He is right to go and sit on Spurs bench, because that is as good as it will get.

No mate. He is a class player. The best this club has produced since Rooney. He's leaving too, which is a cause for great concern not an opportunity to attack the player - again.

And the best player we've produced since Barkley, Dowell, is now playing his football outside the club.

Any rational minded neutral looking in at this club would quickly come to the conclusion that it's an organisation that cant keep or wont keep its very best.

The draining away of talent from this club in recent times has been a disgrace and a slur on the club's traditions.

 

[a bell maul]

My view on him as a player is there for all to see David. I was saying how much he'd improved his all round game last season, you denied it had happened. As that would have meant giving Koeman some credit

My view on his decision to leave has nothing to do with his performances last season. People differ in their view on him, that's how it works, he divides opinion.

you are not wrong mate. Cuco similarly polarises opinion.

 

[davek]

My view on him as a player is there for all to see David. I was saying how much he'd improved his all round game last season, you denied it had happened. As that would have meant giving Koeman some credit

My view on his decision to leave has nothing to do with his performances last season. People differ in their view on him, that's how it works, he divides opinion.

Next time there's posters talking about how daft and undeveloped Barkley is I'll link you to it.

I look forward to you taking said critics to task.

 

[Simon baker]

I feel this may be somewhat overhyped. He didn't suddenly become boss after Koeman talk, he just started defending a bit more and that was enough to make people think he had improved massively.

I maintain he's now a worse player than he was in the 13/14 season. Over the course of four seasons he's gone from being an exciting attacking threat to someone who comes deep a lot of the time and plays lots of short passes and tries to dictate tempo of game. Not saying that's a bad thing but as is usually the case in England he's had his flair/best attributes coached out of him to try and make him more complete.

Unfortunately this seems to be embedded in our footballing culture.

Strangely barkelys supposed defensive frailties are a massive talking point & he requires coaching on them however I seldom if ever have heard discussions on how gueye & Schneiderlin or our defenders require coaching on how to effectively move the ball quickly forwards to a team mate closer to the opposition goal instead of always passing sideways or backwards after 2 touches & turning in the opposite direction.

 

[Moonlight dribbler]

No mate. He is a class player. The best this club has produced since Rooney. He's leaving too, which is a cause for great concern not an opportunity to attack the player - again.

And the best player we've produced since Barkley, Dowell, is now playing his football outside the club.

Any rational minded neutral looking in at this club would quickly come to the conclusion that it's an organisation that cant keep or wont keep its very best.

The draining away of talent from this club in recent times has been a disgrace and a slur on the club's traditions.

Not really a fan of players that lose the ball continually. Bit if thats your idea of a great player, each to their own. All about opinions. He has skill but not enough end product imho.