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Sam Allardyce

So, what next?

  • IN. Give him a chance and see what he can do?

    Votes: 79 8.3%
  • OUT. Thanks but no thanks. See Ya?

    Votes: 758 79.3%
  • As ever. Cheese on Toast

    Votes: 25 2.6%
  • Er, I am a bit scared of us Evertoning this right up.

    Votes: 94 9.8%

  • Total voters
    956
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All about the public perception now with Sam, he will continue to talk up him being here long term, it suits his purpose, he'll get binned ofc in the summer, next season someone will try bring him back out if retirement, and he'll have them over a barrell for a longer contract than they want to offer, being able to cite his contract and plans when he came here for it bit to be a quick fix job etc...

Big Sam, master of getting two years wages for 6 months work.

I reckon he'll retire and stick to it this time, extolling his wisdon via the media and his sychophantic mates. In terms of his public persona I think he's had his fingers burned far more than he ever thought he would by this job and will go before he gets sacked.

Looking at next season I can't see who'd employ him:
Palace, WHU, Newcastle - clearly a no-go
Southampton, Swansea, Bournemouth, Watford - not their type at all
Huddersfield - Deutsche Girls
Brighton - hmmm maybe

His time is up, the game has moved on. Interesting that questions are now being asked of Mourinho and how dated his style is also. Football moves on, we need to employ coaches on the up.
 
Everything this guy says makes my stomach turn, he basically has not got a clue what he is doing.

Let’s change the mindset of the players, this is not the reason why we have not won away.

It’s the tactics and team selection you absolute tool.

Please announce that you are leaving in May.

Mindset is a massive part of it...

He is the only one who managed to get us an away win this season.
 

I reckon he'll retire and stick to it this time, extolling his wisdon via the media and his sychophantic mates. In terms of his public persona I think he's had his fingers burned far more than he ever thought he would by this job and will go before he gets sacked.

His time is up, the game has moved on. Interesting that questions are now being asked of Mourinho and how dated his style is also. Football moves on, we need to employ coaches on the up.
Allardyce to Man United? Mourinho is ours?
 
Saints wouldn't want him, not good enough for them, they want to get out of a mess not get into one. Be suprised if there is any club besides Everton stupid enough to go for him

Silva is ten times the manger Hughes will ever be, people are getting a bit blinded by picking his negatives, just from the prem. Seems nobody is remembering the good work he did before coming to the prem.

Watford were favourites to finish bottom, even after that poor run he left them mid table which was well exceeding expectations.
 
Mindset is a massive part of it...

He is the only one who managed to get us an away win this season.
This really. We go on and on about our away form when he actually won an away game at the first time of asking, and our first since around January 2017. We also managed a draw at Anfield against a Liverpool team absolutely flying at the time.

The away form has been crap ever since Koeman took over, it isn't a new thing under Allardyce. There's bigger sticks to beat him with.
 
he's talking more and more about next season

honestly I'm certain he knows he's hated by the fans and is on a massive wind up, he's always and joking when he is talking absolute drivel I reckon he's just sitting there trolling us all because he knows his fat arse is going to landfill after the west ham game
 

I reckon he'll retire and stick to it this time, extolling his wisdon via the media and his sychophantic mates. In terms of his public persona I think he's had his fingers burned far more than he ever thought he would by this job and will go before he gets sacked.

Looking at next season I can't see who'd employ him:
Palace, WHU, Newcastle - clearly a no-go
Southampton, Swansea, Bournemouth, Watford - not their type at all
Huddersfield - Deutsche Girls
Brighton - hmmm maybe

His time is up, the game has moved on. Interesting that questions are now being asked of Mourinho and how dated his style is also. Football moves on, we need to employ coaches on the up.

Probably and hopefully you are right mate.

As for Mourinho being outdated, think he has been for a whilst - just he was at such a high level that it takes a whilst before the decline in effectiveness becomes apparent.

Change Mourinhos name to some other managers and 2 seasons at United finishing 24 points off the title and then maybe 20+ again this season, a last 16 exit from the CL to a 'average' Spanish side, and 'only' a league cup and Europa league to show for it, then think they'd be sacking him personally if it was many other managers with that record.

Situation for him would have looked even grimmer had they lost in the semi of the EL last year - when in reality his tactics 'should' have cost them right at the end save for a god awful miss from Villareal (think it was them anyway).

Ones a managers bubble has burst - it becomes more and more apparent, Chelsea his last season destroyed the mystique the media/himself has built up surrounding him, once gone it's incredibly hard to get that aura back.

Ferguson was a rare manager in he insulated himself from becoming outdated in many ways by constantly changing his assistant every 3-5 years - and bringing in a more modern one each time, but perhaps the biggest thing was that he actually gave the assistant real power and influence in the club so they where respected and could function well.
 
he's talking more and more about next season

honestly I'm certain he knows he's hated by the fans and is on a massive wind up, he's always and joking when he is talking absolute drivel I reckon he's just sitting there trolling us all because he knows his fat arse is going to landfill after the west ham game

He may well have been advised to do this by his agent to get as big a pay-off as poss....
 
On it's way to Stoke.

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This really. We go on and on about our away form when he actually won an away game at the first time of asking, and our first since around January 2017. We also managed a draw at Anfield against a Liverpool team absolutely flying at the time.

The away form has been crap ever since Koeman took over, it isn't a new thing under Allardyce. There's bigger sticks to beat him with.
Being pedantic, it was at the second time of asking (unless you're counting Limassol, in which case it wasn't the first win since January because we'd also won away at Ruzomberok). More importantly though, it's also a complete anomaly, seeing as we've lost 6 successive away games under him, which is our worst run for 13 years. It's also worth noting that our away form actually wasn't bad initially under Koeman, we'd won about 4 by the midway point of last season but for some inexplicable reason it then just fell off a cliff.
 
Being pedantic, it was at the second time of asking (unless you're counting Limassol, in which case it wasn't the first win since January because we'd also won away at Ruzomberok). More importantly though, it's also a complete anomaly, seeing as we've lost 6 successive away games under him, which is our worst run for 13 years. It's also worth noting that our away form actually wasn't bad initially under Koeman, we'd won about 4 by the midway point of last season but for some inexplicable reason it then just fell off a cliff.

Teams quickly wise up to opponents who are entirely predictable.

The NUFC win was an anomoly as you say and frankly we didn't deserve to ein that.
 

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