Sam Allardyce

[CRIMHEAD]

There is no reason to boot him if we are hiring a new D of F. Mosh and the board need to let that man make that decision (which they will do in approximately 2 seconds).

 

[Saint Domingo]

If Allardyce stays then it shows that no one at Everton has any clue about the fan base or any aspiration at all. If he starts next season the fan frustration will reach boiling point.

 

[Joey66]

There is no reason to boot him if we are hiring a new D of F. Mosh and the board need to let that man make that decision (which they will do in approximately 2 seconds).

We are beaten by his team selections alone - the youth players have been rested by him, hoofball is on display week in week out!
It's ruddy dire end of him!
Moshri has been told and agreed with BK!

 

[Stephenlloyd]

Onions by any chance?

I’m not a member on the site, but do go on to have a look at a few threads. Blue onions like you said seemed adamant sam was staying. I read that about a month ago.
Has he posted anything recently regarding this?

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

We are beaten by his team selections alone - the youth players have been rested by him, hoofball is on display week in week out!
It's ruddy dire end of him!
Moshri has been told and agreed with BK!

The youngsters won't progress under him. I'm not just talking giving them first team opportunities, but focusing on coaching and so forth behind the scenes.

 

[orly]

We are beaten by his team selections alone - the youth players have been rested by him, hoofball is on display week in week out!
It's ruddy dire end of him!
Moshri has been told and agreed with BK!

What are you hearing then JosephFrandel, is it END OF for Sam?>??

 

[LocalNative]

If Allardyce stays then it shows that no one at Everton has any clue about the fan base or any aspiration at all. If he starts next season the fan frustration will reach boiling point.

If he aint gone come June 1st I'm pretty sure fan frustration will be maxed out!

 

[GwladysBlue]

I wonder what it will be like when the players and manager do their Lap of Appreciation at the end of the Southampton game. I haven't stayed for once since 2013/14, definitely won't be staying for this one.

 

[Joey66]

What are you hearing then JosephFrandel, is it END OF for Sam?>??

end of the season - he will be gone !

 

[Sir Alan]

I wonder what it will be like when the players and manager do their Lap of Appreciation at the end of the Southampton game. I haven't stayed for once since 2013/14, definitely won't be staying for this one.

Stayed last season just about.

Won’t be staying this time, straight the boozer.

 

[tommytowne]

end of the season - he will be gone !

He'll be gone by the Southampton game.

 

[funkygibson]

I’m not a member on the site, but do go on to have a look at a few threads. Blue onions like you said seemed adamant sam was staying. I read that about a month ago.
Has he posted anything recently regarding this?

I think his source was someone very close to SA coaching team (if not one of them). It seems they believe it’s business as usual in regard to carrying on into next season but surely that’s obviously going to be the case as they’re not going to be told any different until the end of the season. Onions mentioned a few days ago that although his source is saying the same the alarm bells rang for him at allardyces pre derby press conference when he said until farhad moshiri told him any different he’ll carry on as normal

 

[Lob]

Allardyce has been in charge for 19 league games now. In an earlier post you said 'in an equal amount of games for comparison in the league, Koeman would have done better', that would have to include 10 league games from last season which includes Lukaku and in my opinion makes the argument flawed.

What I will concede on, is that I think if Allardyce had been given the first 9 games that Koeman had, there would have been minimal difference in the points totals due to the start including City (A), Chelsea (A), Spurs (H), United (H), Arsenal (H). If you compare Koeman's 9 games this season, with Allardyce's first 9, Allardyce gets 12 points to Koeman's 8, but Koeman faced 5 of the top 6 whereas Allardyce faced 4 of the top 6 so would have returned a pretty similar points total if the same fixtures.

Where I differ I think from you is that I saw no sign of Koeman doing anything right. So I think over the 19 game period that Allardyce has been in charge, Koeman would have still been considerably worse. Allardyce may have had us playing poor football, but he has earned us wins by 2 goal margins against Huddersfield, Swansea, Brighton and Crystal Palace, whilst also getting us a win against Leicester who were above us, and 2 away wins. By contrast, Koeman didn't get a single away win from January to October and every game was a struggle with him. In every game except for Split at home we had to struggle for a positive result. Both Ruzomberok games, Split away, Stoke at home, Bournemouth at home, Limassol at home, Brighton away etc. Koeman was an utter disgrace this season.

Like i said to you previously, Lukaku is irrelevant. Cenk Tosun signed the first week in January and has been available for 11 games since then. Whether Allardyce played him or not doesn't come into it. He was available even if Allardyce said he didn't like the cold (LoL) and has scored goals.

Anyway, when i had a bit of spare time this afternoon, i did another tally up only this time with Premiership games only. Allardyce has had 19 premiership games in total so i have gone back from the Arsenal game the same amount of games for Koeman. There were 9 games this season and so the most recent 10 in the previous season have been used. Here is the tally up.

Allardyce - 19 Premiership games total

Win = 7
Draw = 5
Lose = 7

Koeman - 19 Premiership games(9 this season, 10 previous)

Win = 6
Draw = 4
Lose = 9

The outcome is pretty much the same as the previous one. It is important to remember that Koeman's run of poor form started towards the end of last season and continued into this season. Point being, Koeman's results above were very poor and enough to warrant him having to be sacked.

Allardyce has only won and drew 1 more game than Koeman did and hence should also be sacked as it is nowhere near good enough.

Again, it is also very clear looking at the results that if we have not been relegated under Allardyce, then we would not have been under Koeman either as we were safe 3 games ago and there are still 5 to go and there isn't that much difference in their form. Both are crap and a new Manager is needed.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Anger & frustration at Allardyce will increase as the season comes to an end, and I fully expect to see many of these "he's staying" rumours. Exactly the same thing happened at the end of Martinez and Koeman's reigns "Is he going?", "when are the Board going to act?" etc.

For me, Allardyce is toast and even the media have been tipped off. It won't happen till May, I don't think.

If we haven't heard something concrete by the last home game a mass walkout 10 mins before the end could be called for. The players dont deserve a lap of honour anyway.

 

[riddick]

If we haven't heard something concrete by the last home game a mass walkout 10 mins before the end could be called for. The players dont deserve a lap of honour anyway.

Seriously. "Lap of honour"? For THIS season?

Be grateful if nobody throws any rotten fruit.

Absolute disgrace from almost everyone involved.