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Sam Allardyce

So, what next?

  • IN. Give him a chance and see what he can do?

    Votes: 79 8.3%
  • OUT. Thanks but no thanks. See Ya?

    Votes: 758 79.3%
  • As ever. Cheese on Toast

    Votes: 25 2.6%
  • Er, I am a bit scared of us Evertoning this right up.

    Votes: 94 9.8%

  • Total voters
    956
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Hi Charles...

Just thought your comments on big Sam were unfair & unjustified, he has only had 4.5 months & has put us in a stable position...
Thanks Marcus and sorry for my tardy response but I had some left over Easter sweets to eat...
I would have to mention that people usually use the word ‘stable’ when referring to someone recovering from a sickness, trauma or malaise. I would suggest that we are actually still suffering from the said sickness, trauma or malaise. In fact we in football Terms we are actually comatose. We were certainly unhealthy when BFS took over with more than half a season left to play but we have cured a sore elbow by amputating the limb! BFS has taken a football club and made it a place were we play percentages not football. If the ambition not to lose, not to get relegated and not to get ‘stick’ for playing our players is a healthy football club then I sir am no better a character actor than Jim Dale!!!
 
He should be given the opportunity....

Then we could judge...

I wasn't totally against Sam when we appointed him, I thought maybe he was given a bit of an unfair rep and I thought maybe he would take his chance to prove people wrong.

One of the remits of a manager is to take the players you have got and improve them or at least get the best out of them that he could, motivate them and give them confidence, I always thought Sam was good at doing these things but he has failed terribly, beyond terribly.

The football is some of the worst I have ever seen and on top of that the fans despise him, he just has to go.
 

But from what to what? Allardyce will have had two thirds of a season and a transfer window by the end of May. What is his plan beyond keep it tight and beat the weakest teams in the division at home? There has to be more to our long term strategy than that. Hasn't there? The football we are playing is painful to watch. Our manager claims a match in which we have 17% possession was played in too attacking a fashion on our part, what is his vision for the future? You say give him time, I say, to you and him, give us a reason to do that.

It will take time to rebuild our side big Sam has had a good look at our squad & will know what he has to do & where he needs to bring players in, he is a very experienced manager & would give us stability.

Have we got a manager lined up to takeover, if we have not then what is the point of sacking big Sam...

I do understand your views & concerns & the need to change to a new more up to date manager but it has to be the right man, we can not afford to keep sacking our managers so quickly if we want to move forward.
 
Thanks Marcus and sorry for my tardy response but I had some left over Easter sweets to eat...
I would have to mention that people usually use the word ‘stable’ when referring to someone recovering from a sickness, trauma or malaise. I would suggest that we are actually still suffering from the said sickness, trauma or malaise. In fact we in football Terms we are actually comatose. We were certainly unhealthy when BFS took over with more than half a season left to play but we have cured a sore elbow by amputating the limb! BFS has taken a football club and made it a place were we play percentages not football. If the ambition not to lose, not to get relegated and not to get ‘stick’ for playing our players is a healthy football club then I sir am no better a character actor than Jim Dale!!!


Your humorous replies do make me smile & I can understand your concerns with big Sam, I just hope if the plan is to sack big Sam we have got a manager lined up ready to take us onwards & upwards next season, however we must give that manager time as there is some major surgery needed.
 
I`m going to be kind to you.

He was given a golden opportunity, to get rid of the reputation he`d built up over 20 yrs, as a "limited" manager.

You`d think that with twenty years as a manager and the fact that he was allegedly one of the most up to date managers in the game, re modern coaching methods and sports science, that he`d be able to coach more than the footballing equivalent of " Up and Under ".

( I strongly suspect that the myth, that he`s a progressive manager, is a myth that he`s created himself.)

The fact that after twenty years of coaching, it`s more than apparent, that he`s incapable of delivering anything other than what we`ve seen since he`s been here - footballing aids.

He can blame who he wants, as he always does, but however you dress it up, he`s blown this one last golden chance in spectacular fashion.

If showed some humility and honesty from day one, stating that the football may not be pretty, but needs must until we were safe, more would`ve been open to giving him a chance.

He hasn`t though, it`s been all about him, what a great manager he is and that he knows best.

To be honest out of the 18k + on this thread - one of if not the best I have read and agreed 100%
 
No a talented manager who can take us to the next level should be given the opportunity.

Instead of this disgraceful short-termism Moshiri has created we need to build something for the long term, Sam Allardyce is not a long term appointment.
I understand where you are coming from. And to be honest, part of my reluctance to ditch Allardyce comes from the knowledge that we have a fool as an owner.
 

I understand where you are coming from. And to be honest, part of my reluctance to ditch Allardyce comes from the knowledge that we have a fool as an owner.
You see I’m hinging on the fact that he’s just inexperienced and will learn from his mistakes, it could well be what you say however
 
It will take time to rebuild our side big Sam has had a good look at our squad & will know what he has to do & where he needs to bring players in, he is a very experienced manager & would give us stability.

Have we got a manager lined up to takeover, if we have not then what is the point of sacking big Sam...

I do understand your views & concerns & the need to change to a new more up to date manager but it has to be the right man, we can not afford to keep sacking our managers so quickly if we want to move forward.

We haven't moved forward. Probably down to fixtures, other teams have gone backwards, we've stayed still. Nothing has improved, at all, to be fair there's a greater argument that things have got worse.
 
So, five points is enough to stay on? With games against Swansea, Newcastle, Huddersfield, Southampton and West Ham? Is that a good enough return?
I suspect that he was appointed way back when specifically for games like these 5. These are the end of season arm wrestles that struggling teams need to win to avoid relegation - Big Scam's expertise. As it is the job is done in reality and we do not need his "expertise" now.

Apart from meandering to the end of the season under Duncan or Unsworth and compounding our deserved appearance of a club without any workable recruitment policy what do we have to lose if big Scam was jettisoned? I'd prefer to see some of the fringe and youth players given a chance alongside the players identified as having a future under the next manager. That's if we've even had such a degree of foresight. If big Scam had a chance of next season he should be doing this anyway except that'd mean changing from his role as a cross between Mike Bassett and self-publicising Harry Houdini which is never going to happen.

Anyway. Big Scam out.
 

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