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Sam Allardyce

So, what next?

  • IN. Give him a chance and see what he can do?

    Votes: 79 8.3%

  • OUT. Thanks but no thanks. See Ya?

    Votes: 758 79.3%

  • As ever. Cheese on Toast

    Votes: 25 2.6%

  • Er, I am a bit scared of us Evertoning this right up.

    Votes: 94 9.8%
  • Total voters
    956
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Forget the fetid atmosphere he's creating at the club and the horrible football. He needs to go most of all before he can do lasting damage to the club through player recruitment. Ask any of his recent clubs what state he left them in.

It's already starting if the media are to be believed. He cannot lumber us with Wilshere, Vardy and Jones on big contracts before sanity prevails and we boot him.
 
He’ll be gone in the summer he’s totally bluffing about his plans imo. However let him spout whatever doesnt matter what he says.
 
I would assume that if we are keeping him we will have to extend his length of contract by at least a further 12 months.
It would surely become a problem recruiting players if they are uncertain that the manager who is signing them may well be gone a year later?
It also undermines his authority with existing players.
Unless you have a clear line of succession with a named manager at the season end it is not ideal.
With that in mind I would expect to see us negotiate his extension sooner rather than later.
If we are keeping him that is.
 
Ipswich agreed to Lemony Snickett staying until the end of the season and managed to squeeze him out ahead of schedule. Why can't we do the same with Mr. Alladyce?
 

bluestevon said:
Spin side on that mate, it also shows how easily it can all be turned around again, season before we looked tired and pretty jaded as a team which had peaked and was slipping back again.

One change at the top - one summer of good recruitment and the following season was the polar opposite of it.
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Thats it, teams come and go and the landscape is always shifting. 2 summers ago Leicester won the league and it was all about how the big 6 domination had ended. Now we have the big 6 are unstoppable again. Chelsea are really struggling for me and will fall out, and I do question how long Spurs can keep it going with stadium cost/repayments without the sort of preferential deal on repayments we have done.

It's massively up in the air. Martinez got us very close to being a good side. Maybe he will learn from his experience and become that manager.

We've had an awful season, where no player has played to anything like his best, the kindest thing I can say is the likes of Pickford have done "ok". Yet we are 9th. If more money is spent, more astutely by a better DOF and we have a better coach, alongside some of the younger players improving next season we have a lot of potential.

I think thats what's most frustrating. When we languished around 5-8th before you could see there was no way we could do much better than that. Players like Cahill, Arteta, Peinaar, Jagielka, Baines were pretty much playing to their maximum and we had no money to sign better players, time to bring in younger players with a higher ceiling or the ability/profile/mindset to attract a young coach who could improve said players. We are almost in the opposite situation now.

If you take the derby, they rested Robertson, and Salah was injured and other than that the 14 they played were pretty close to the strongest team they had available. They didn't look miles ahead of us and in the last 15 minutes when that clicked on our players and the ultra-pessimism of Allardyce began to wore off they struggled with us. That's with the confidence of hammering City last week for them, us being played off the park by City the week before and an 8 year run without beating them in the mindset and the two teams looked very similar.

We are much closer to challenging than we think.
 
Tez said:
Forget the fetid atmosphere he's creating at the club and the horrible football. He needs to go most of all before he can do lasting damage to the club through player recruitment. Ask any of his recent clubs what state he left them in.

It's already starting if the media are to be believed. He cannot lumber us with Wilshere, Vardy and Jones on big contracts before sanity prevails and we boot him.
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It's mind boggling he'd want those three. Ignoring age / injury records they are actual good players. Utterly wasted in Sam's hoof-fest dystopia.
 
Tez said:
Forget the fetid atmosphere he's creating at the club and the horrible football. He needs to go most of all before he can do lasting damage to the club through player recruitment. Ask any of his recent clubs what state he left them in.

It's already starting if the media are to be believed. He cannot lumber us with Wilshere, Vardy and Jones on big contracts before sanity prevails and we boot him.
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Very true do not need more old players got enough on the books now.
 

Of course he’s going to be making plans. He’s here for another year officially.

Whether he will be allowed to implement those plans is another question.

Hopefully not......
 
He won t be here next season because there is absolutely nothing he has achieved this year to earn it.

Literally come may, there isn't one thing apart from not being relegated that he can take as a positive. Complete failure of an appointment and the club know this.
 

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