Sam Allardyce

So, what next?

  • IN. Give him a chance and see what he can do?

    Votes: 79 8.3%
  • OUT. Thanks but no thanks. See Ya?

    Votes: 758 79.3%
  • As ever. Cheese on Toast

    Votes: 25 2.6%
  • Er, I am a bit scared of us Evertoning this right up.

    Votes: 94 9.8%

  • Total voters
    956
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Agree, but it is hard to deny we were desperate at the end of the Dutchman's reign. We even went for Silva from another great club, Watford. We are no longer an attraction for any good proven manager or any top class player.
 
The problem is the very moment we hired Sam Allardyce is the very moment we threw our lot in with the West Hams and Stokes of this world.

All people are doing is judging us by the ambition that hire showed we have - as in pretty much none whatsoever.

He should never have been hired. We sold our prestige down the river when he signed on the dotted line.

What prestige?

We were boss years ago. Its been 20 odd years of nothing.

We were in a position to push on at the start of the season but that got out of hand very quickly.
 

Mate, the situation has been perfectly set for this weekend, the comments from him post Swansea, followed by this questionnaire, and his utter car crash of a press conference when he's effectively said the fans should not have any voice or say in this matter, the bit about getting Blue Bill to apologise will even nark off his happy clapper brigade :D

Oh and throw on top of that a set of visiting vocal fans who absolutely detest BFS themselves, with a former rs manager in charge. Guarantee that we will see both sets of fans joining in with the 'f' off sam allardyce chants

Perfect storm this weekend, gonna be more fun than the actual match


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Game over when Sunderland are being used as a defence - @orly

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ANDY DAWSON: SPOILT FANS NEED TO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE REALITY

My children are now old and mature enough not to resort to throwing tantrums, but I still remember one spectacular meltdown by my son in the middle of the street in 2003, when he was about two years old.

It had the lot – foot-stamping, screaming until he went red in the face, and even chucking his favourite cuddly toy into the road where it was almost squashed by passing traffic until I rescued it.

When I was finally able to get him to calm down and explain what was causing this classic example of ‘the terrible twos’, he wailed. ‘Dad, it’s because Mick McCarthy has reduced our beloved Sunderland to a functional, prosaic side compared to the swashbuckling Peter Reid team of a few years ago – the one that won the First Division at a canter with 105 points, with the twin attacking threat of Niall Quinn and Kevin Phillips at its apex.’

As I hugged him and reassured him that it was all going to be okay, he carried on; ‘Yes, I accept that McCarthy is somewhat hamstrung by the need to assemble a new team on a tight budget after the inevitable dismantling of last season’s relegated side, but surely he doesn’t need to abandon the attacking principles that made trips to the Stadium of Light such a joy in the late 1990s.’

I suppose he had a vaguely reasonable point, even if he hadn’t actually been born during the halcyon days of which he screeched.

I’ve been reminded of his hysterics a few times lately as fans of a select group of clubs have indulged in sustained moaning about the quality of the football they’re being forced to endure.

The fact that Big Sam’s mission to guide the club to safety has been successfully completed doesn’t seem important, even given that when Ronald Koeman left they were a basket case of a side, and one that had benefitted from an eye-spinning £140m of new summer signings.

It seems that Allardyce’s brand of football; organised, with a strong work ethic and focus on targeting winnable matches, has disgusted large sections of Toffees fans.

In truth, Everton have only lost twice at home since Allardyce arrived, to the two Manchester clubs. I’d say that isn’t bad, not least compared to the final season of Roberto Martinez’s stewardship, where they racked up the lowest tally of points at Goodison in a single season since three points for a win were introduced way back in 1981.

Martinez, like Koeman, was heralded as the kind of boss who would get Everton playing the sort of football that fans longed for. Losing football, I suppose.

I heard an Everton fan on a radio phone in yesterday calling for the poaching of Sean Dyche, as if the (brilliant in my opinion) Burnley manager would introduce a style of play that would act as an anathema to the Allardyce way. That’ll be the same Burnley who have scored the fewest home goals out of all the Premier League teams this season, yes? Be careful what you wish for, folks.

Beware any club that has a ‘way’ because their fans are by and large stuck in an over-romanticised past and blind to the fact that the game has become far more about fine margins and squeezing every last drop out of every player in your squad, as opposed to letting a gang of fanny merchants stroll on to the pitch and dribble their way to glory.

Then there’s Ipswich Town – they also have a ‘way’ apparently, last seen mostly during the Bobby Robson era of four decades ago (and revived for one top flight season under George Burley).

It’s why Mick McCarthy has finally departed Portman Road in spite of keeping the club punching well above their weight in the Championship, while being chronically underfunded by an apathetic chairman.

McCarthy’s ‘way’ was diametrically opposed to the traditional Tractor Boys ‘way’ and now he’s hit the highway. Best of luck to whoever is next if the penny-pinching blueprint remains in place at the club.

Let’s not forget Arsenal and their ‘way’ – which was actually largely devised by Arsene Wenger, who fans now want to see the back of.

The 1980s version of Arsenal were notoriously grim (remember the ‘1-0 to the Arsenal’ chant?) and after George Graham’s 1991 title win, it all went pretty wonky pretty quickly, with a 10th place finish two seasons later and a dismal 12th as Graham departed in 1995.

Supporters of the aforementioned clubs have bought into a collective mania that has very little relevance to the modern game.

The clubs that these deluded fantasists follow are all being outthought and outstripped by the likes of Bournemouth, Watford and of course the mighty Burnley, where pragmatism and long-term strategies are bearing fruit, instead of chopping, changing and repeatedly calling for a new manager just because the bloke who is clearing up the mess left by the last bloke isn’t giving it all jazz hands as soon as he walks through the day. Grow up!

As all the best parenting manuals say, you should never indulge a tantrum.

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diasgree, he will have us fighting for Europe by the seasons end he has never had a decent squad to work with.

Pointless raising any positives with toffeetim. He's the most negative blurt on here

i can assure you he wont be sacked if we are in or around the european places at the seasons end.

I think he can take us further. I think he can get us into Europe.

Actually got a feeling he will shock everybody and turn out to be a very good manager for us, just due mainly to his no nonsense approach and his man management skills with over pampered footballing fannies, of which we seem to have too many on the books.

THe fact that we are so against this and have such low expectations gives me hope that something wonderful will happen.

It would be interesting to know how many of the posters harping on the Fat Sam line are sitting that close to their computer desks.:pint2:

Suck it up and back the manager

Also, Allardyce isn't even fat.

He is big boned.

Does have a massive head like.

Just lucky he's British and white.

i think he could be a really good manager for you. he will get you organized and sort your defence out, which is what you need. at bolton with a bit of money and decent players they played pretty good football and did well. you've got some good players and should be no where near the bottom of the league.

Glad its sorted. At last.

You never know, he might surprise us.

He may not be popular and i get that but he is what you need right now.

Maybe, just maybe the whole Big Sam experiment can work a treat. Maybe he will get us good. Everton may need someone who will just get us hard to beat and not worry too much about playing like the Harlem Globe Trotters for now. Who knows.

Steady the ship, and go from there.

Anyone else see this idiot last night at the match? Pathetic Kopite like behaviour. Is this what we've come to as a fan base FFS?!View attachment 42568

He's a bent fat gravy drinking backwards thinking manager.

But he's our bent fat gravy drinking backwards thinking manager.

Up Everton.

If they made that Sammy Lee sign now he's working for our club it would be worse but in the context of when it was made while he was at our rivals it's fine.

It's just somthing I'd expect to see a Kopite do. Vent by all means but do people have to do it in such a cringey way?!

So it make me a "superfan" because I think it cringeworhy for any set of fans to act like that? I'm not saying you have to be happy about Big Sam, in sure as hell not but FFS......

Don't except it. Stop going if you feel so strongly about it but it would great if people didn't make cringey signs that are nothing short of an embarrassment. The atmosphere at Goodison these days is terrible precisely because of people like that woman. I sit the row behind were that pic was taken and she was silent as the grave all game. So she "wants to be heard" but can't be arsed making any noise to support the team.

Criticism is fine criticise away but try not to embarrass everyone else at associated with the club while your at it.

As always he gets my full support, if he succeeds, Everton succeeds, lets just see what happens in the next 18months and take it from there.

Sammy Gravys blue and white army.

I wouldnt be surprised if he did. Be it EL qualification, decent signings, or a pot. This is, by a mile, the biggest club job he has had. I reckon he will do well.

Reckon he'll be up for it. He gave it a good go at West Ham and tried to play more attacking football in his second year. I suspect he feels this is his chance to work with some money and prove to others that if he's backed he can compete higher up the table. The only question in my mind is if we can sort our up to now shambolic transfer market dealings.

Totally backing the big man!! Cant wait to go on saturday now ;)

Win us the FA Cup please

I like him. Think he’ll do well.

So much faux horrified daily mail snobbery going on.

The majority of people screaming about his ethics would probably do the same if not worse.

I don't have a problem with Allardyce. Always thought he was a good manager. He's very good a fostering that siege mentality that winning clubs have and that we're sorely missing at the moment.

How long is it since we've had a manager with as good a record as Sam?

If we win the derby and he comes out with a few smart one liners then 90% of fans will get behind him. If he wins us a cup he's a hero. If we won the league he'd be a legend.

I always felt he was underated. I don't think he will be like Roy, Moyes or Pulis who deliberately temper expectations to ease the pressure on them.

You will be back when we are parading the FA Cup in a few months.

I'm never wrong mate. Chuck a few quid on us.

It's written already we will beat them at Anfield, and beat them better in front of the Gwladys because big Sam the Bionic Man has the magic!

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