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Sam Allardyce

So, what next?

  • IN. Give him a chance and see what he can do?

    Votes: 79 8.3%
  • OUT. Thanks but no thanks. See Ya?

    Votes: 758 79.3%
  • As ever. Cheese on Toast

    Votes: 25 2.6%
  • Er, I am a bit scared of us Evertoning this right up.

    Votes: 94 9.8%

  • Total voters
    956
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I'd be surprised yes.

Moshiri is swayed (wrongly in some ways but not here) by popular fan opinions, and likes a big name.

Sam is neither popular nor a big name. Even Bill doesn't want him.
I know all of that. I pray all of that is correct.
I also know we've been conditioned, over the past 30 years, to accept and expect mediocrity.
I'd suggest he's got a better chance of staying than being fired.

Hope I am badly wrong.
 
As you quite rightly said,it's all guesswork but.
"Everton have now accrued 30 points since his appointment at the end of November. That puts them among the top six clubs in the Premier League since his arrival. Above Arsene Wenger's Arsenal. Only four points below Antonio Conte's Chelsea."
Doubt somehow those stats fit your agenda.

Don’t have an agenda, just sharing my opinion. Granted, He has got points for us. But I believe Koeman would have done that in a similar vein as comparable matches are very similar. I don’t like either of them though, but I was against Big Sam before he arrived and his style of football and arrogance hasn’t changed that. I just honestly don’t think we were in a relegation scrap and needed saving.
 
Have you seen a post where I have said I want him to stay? My point is that Moshiri will make the decision,not me,not you,and if you really think he cares what the fans think...I'd start on the Valium now if I were you.
Moshiris decision can be influenced by the fans, if you turn up every week and fill the ground he wont give a toss, but if there's an empty stadium in protest then he will have to think about his decision. The 'boss blues' and the 'happy clappers' who will go regardless cant moan if they're not going to do anything about it. I believe 100% he's gone, if you don't believe it or don't wont him then you have 1 home game remaining to make it loud and clear of your thoughts..
 

Don’t have an agenda, just sharing my opinion. Granted, He has got points for us. But I believe Koeman would have done that in a similar vein as comparable matches are very similar. I don’t like either of them though, but I was against Big Sam before he arrived and his style of football and arrogance hasn’t changed that. I just honestly don’t think we were in a relegation scrap and needed saving.
It's something we'll never know.As the late great Greavsie said "It's a funny old game"
 
Have you seen a post where I have said I want him to stay? My point is that Moshiri will make the decision,not me,not you,and if you really think he cares what the fans think...I'd start on the Valium now if I were you.
Think you have a point about Moshiri regarding the fans, as I have been saying for some time now. Despite the fact that the majority of fans do not like his "style" of football, I have absolutely no confidence in the board to dispense with his services just yet. As others have also said, perhaps moshiri and co will sacrifice on field ambition to push the new stadium agenda and be content with mediocre mid table positions...personally I hope that this is NOT the case, and we will put a proper long term plan into effect to restore our fortunes. However i will not be holding my breath..sorry to be a little negative but as each day goes by my initial faith and optimism about Moshiri is being steadily eroded. Regarding the other shysters on the board.....nuff said !!
 
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Moshiris decision can be influenced by the fans, if you turn up every week and fill the ground he wont give a toss, but if there's an empty stadium in protest then he will have to think about his decision. The 'boss blues' and the 'happy clappers' who will go regardless cant moan if they're not going to do anything about it. I believe 100% he's gone, if you don't believe it or don't wont him then you have 1 home game remaining to make it loud and clear of your thoughts..
Everybody expected a strong reaction at the Newcastle game, but nothing happened,season ticket renewals are looking normal.Just don't get this thing that if you don't post gravy insults you must by default be an Allardyce supporter,it's crazy.I don't want him here next season,but Moshiri just might.
 
Think you have a point about Moshiri regarding the fans, as I have been saying for some time now. Despite the fact that the majority of fans do not like his "style" of football, I have absolutely no confidence in the board to dispense with his services just yet. As others have also said, perhaps moshiri and co will sacrifice on field ambition to push the new stadium agenda and be content with mediocre mid table positions...personally I hope that this is NOT the case, and we will put a proper long term plan into effect to restore our fortunes. However i will not be holding my breath..
People post as if he's a life long Blue.Moshiri is a businessman he will decide what's best for his balance sheet.Ps if you want your posts to be taken seriously mentioning Bisto goes a long way.
 
Everybody expected a strong reaction at the Newcastle game, but nothing happened,season ticket renewals are looking normal.Just don't get this thing that if you don't post gravy insults you must by default be an Allardyce supporter,it's crazy.I don't want him here next season,but Moshiri just might.

I don’t get the gravy insults. I love gravy but don’t want to be compared with Allardyce. It’s pushing us real gravy lovers underground. Had to jump off the gravy train until all this is over.
 

He came in to do a job nothing more nothing less.He has done what he was supposed to do and that was to keep us up. Whether we pushed the panic button to early in sacking Koeman and then not getting the right man in is to be seen.He will ride off into a gravy sunset head held high and we will move forward.That's my take on it anyway.
 
Moshiris decision can be influenced by the fans, if you turn up every week and fill the ground he wont give a toss, but if there's an empty stadium in protest then he will have to think about his decision. The 'boss blues' and the 'happy clappers' who will go regardless cant moan if they're not going to do anything about it. I believe 100% he's gone, if you don't believe it or don't wont him then you have 1 home game remaining to make it loud and clear of your thoughts..
I can't blame people who want to go and put up with it. For some it's a way of life, a habit, a religion even. I remember coming home on a Saturday in the 90's, sulking, having a tantrum, kicking the cat if we had one, after watching yet another pile of dung. And me arl fella would say "why do you do it, you've got to start voting with your feet, it's the only way they'll get the message". But I couldn't stop going. Doesn't mean I was happy to go, far from it. I was numb to it all and the apathy had set in. Pretty much like it is these days, hence why it's so quiet.
Now? I can take it or leave it. I've got more important things to worry about these days. If the board can't see what's going on, and how crap it really is, there's no hope.
 
I can't blame people who want to go and put up with it. For some it's a way of life, a habit, a religion even. I remember coming home on a Saturday in the 90's, sulking, having a tantrum, kicking the cat if we had one, after watching yet another pile of dung. And me arl fella would say "why do you do it, you've got to start voting with your feet, it's the only way they'll get the message". But I couldn't stop going. Doesn't mean I was happy to go, far from it. I was numb to it all and the apathy had set in. Pretty much like it is these days, hence why it's so quiet.
Now? I can take it or leave it. I've got more important things to worry about these days. If the board can't see what's going on, and how crap it really is, there's no hope.
Ha ha this sounds like my younger self in the 70s....
 

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