Sam Allardyce

[maccavennie]

Thoughts, could he be seen as a cheap and safe manager while we get this finace sorted for the ground??!!

That could be the thinking behind it Pabbers but as has been alluded to in a post above, all it would take would be a slow start next season and the atmosphere would make it untenable for him to continue.

The best thing for all concerned is he gets binned off, let him say he saved us blah blah blah, he gets a nice pay off and we get someone who is capable of getting us performances married with results

 

[blueblue]

Make no mistake, if we give him next season he’ll be sacked by Christmas and we’ll all write it off and wait for 2019/20.

It makes no sense to keep him on. If you’re standing still in this environment you’re going backwards; keeping Sam is standing still at best and I have to believe Moshiri knows this. You either keep him and give him a new deal, or you bin him off. It has to be the latter if Moshiri still holds any ambition whatsoever.

I think you are completely wrong.

The problem with Sam is not that we will be poor and lose matches it will be that we are not good and will not progress beyond where we are.
Under Sam next season in my opinion we will finish between seventh and ninth. He will not get sacked for that.

 

[Rudolf Hucker]

Shearer nailed it! If Allardyce had the job until end of the season, nobody would argue he’d done a great job.

Seems to be the consensus on here that we have the “6th best squad in the league”, yet Koeman couldn’t get a tune out of them. Unsie either.

Allardyce record shows only 5 teams did better (with our 6th best squad).
I don’t hear any complaints about his 2 signings.

I want a new start with a manager who plays attacking football, but some of the blind hatred towards him is embarrassing. Booing the Tosun/Niasse substitution for instance. It made perfect sense & we immediately saw why. I wonder if any of those booing felt embarrassed?

 

[blueboy1664]

You'll be surprised what a proper young progressive manager like Fonseca or Silva can do with our squad.

Spot on... fat Sam has struggled with a squad with proven international players and international captains

He has struggled to motivate, improved and get the best out of a squad that has potential, managers are paid to get the best of their squad

Our squad should be having more than one shot on goal against teams around them

Big Sam has limited ability, yes he can set up to defend but the minute we try to play expansive football it goes to pot.

The thought of playing a young exciting player made him sick and he farmed him out on loan to Germany and put all his faith in Bolasie

 

[fandjango]

Shearer nailed it! If Allardyce had the job until end of the season, nobody would argue he’d done a great job.

Seems to be the consensus on here that we have the “6th best squad in the league”, yet Koeman couldn’t get a tune out of them. Unsie either.

Allardyce record shows only 5 teams did better (with our 6th best squad).
I don’t hear any complaints about his 2 signings.

I want a new start with a manager who plays attacking football, but some of the blind hatred towards him is embarrassing. Booing the Tosun/Niasse substitution for instance. It made perfect sense & we immediately saw why. I wonder if any of those booing felt embarrassed?

Shearer also said if the fans want him gone in summer he will be gone
For one i agree with him

 

[MrGrumpy]

I've no problem with the results he's produced and at the end of the day we all care about results over performances but we have a large array of quality in our squad which means we don't have to grind out every single game. The biggest annoyance I find under allardyce is that I actually count how many shots on target we have every single game. I can remember what shots they were after the game is done.

1 shot on target against Newcastle with a front 3 that cost 75 mil, maybe just maybe if we give Sam another 200 mil we might get 2 shots on target....

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

I think you are completely wrong.

The problem with Sam is not that we will be poor and lose matches it will be that we are not good and will not progress beyond where we are.
Under Sam next season in my opinion we will finish between seventh and ninth. He will not get sacked for that.

Under Sam we’ve had a simply unsustainable habit of having one or two shots on target, and winning by a goal or two. That wouldn’t continue into a new season, whilst our complete surrender against the top teams still would have us between 10th-13th id wager. No way he keeps his job languishing in the bottom half.

That’s ignoring the games we had zero shots on target.

 

[MrGrumpy]

That could be the thinking behind it Pabbers but as has been alluded to in a post above, all it would take would be a slow start next season and the atmosphere would make it untenable for him to continue.

The best thing for all concerned is he gets binned off, let him say he saved us blah blah blah, he gets a nice pay off and we get someone who is capable of getting us performances married with results

We will never ever accept Allardyce as our manager

 

[Caolam]

I see no reason to keep Allardyce unless we definitely cannot attract another manager and the board feel they need another year to get the right person in. If he stays we are in for another season of turgid football, grinding out results against bottom half teams and winning nothing, or even trying to win anything. We will be in exactly be same position as we are now only a year down the line. If he goes and we get someone in, this time next year he will have started to develop the club. So , no matter what you thing of Allardyce as a manager he is not the long term solution, move him on and let the new man get a new era started.

 

[Pabbers]

That could be the thinking behind it Pabbers but as has been alluded to in a post above, all it would take would be a slow start next season and the atmosphere would make it untenable for him to continue.

The best thing for all concerned is he gets binned off, let him say he saved us blah blah blah, he gets a nice pay off and we get someone who is capable of getting us performances married with results

I agree with you mate, and i can not stand the bloke, even just for how he is in interveiws I want him gone.

Im getting more and more worried he will be kept on.

If he is kept, then everyone must be turning us down.

 

[bluesb1970]

Shearer nailed it! If Allardyce had the job until end of the season, nobody would argue he’d done a great job.

Seems to be the consensus on here that we have the “6th best squad in the league”, yet Koeman couldn’t get a tune out of them. Unsie either.

Allardyce record shows only 5 teams did better (with our 6th best squad).
I don’t hear any complaints about his 2 signings.

I want a new start with a manager who plays attacking football, but some of the blind hatred towards him is embarrassing. Booing the Tosun/Niasse substitution for instance. It made perfect sense & we immediately saw why. I wonder if any of those booing felt embarrassed?

Why are people arguing the point purely on footballing stats. A big part of the dislike for Sam is his demeanour, arrogance style of football. He’s done a job in scrambling up the table but let’s not lose sight of where we are going rather than where we are. Sam can’t take us further than scrambling for points to be 7th in the future. He needs to go

 

[tim cahill]

1 shot on target against Newcastle with a front 3 that cost 75 mil, maybe just maybe if we give Sam another 200 mil we might get 2 shots on target....

We did win though. Would you rather we had 10 shots and lost? Genuine question.

 

[blueblue]

Under Sam we’ve had a simply unsustainable habit of having one or two shots on target, and winning by a goal or two. That wouldn’t continue into a new season, whilst our complete surrender against the top teams still would have us between 10th-13th id wager. No way he keeps his job languishing in the bottom half.

That’s ignoring the games we had zero shots on target.

Sam likes to play a defensive game, his teams are set up not to score a lot but to concede less. Not every manager plays football like Guardiola, but then , not every manager can spend money like Guardiola.

I do not to be rid of Sam just for the sake of it, if he goes I want him to be replaced by a manager that fills me with optimism.
Fonseca and Silva fill me with worry , one has a questionable record in the premiership, the other is coming from a league that is not exactly highly regarded. He has no idea of what is waiting for him every week in the premiership.. We should not be a testing ground for young managers

 

[MrGrumpy]

Guys everyone saying Sam Allardyce has done his job in keeping us safe.... our squad cost £365 mil and plays the worse football in the league

 

[MrGrumpy]

We did win though. Would you rather we had 10 shots and lost? Genuine question.

With a squad that cost £365 mil I’d expect to beat Newcastle easily with more then 1 shot on target