Sam Allardyce

[Bungle]

To be fair Bungle, I much rather you vault me come May when Sam gets Everton 7th or above.

Oh I will my pooch munching friend, I will xx

 

[ExpatinBangkok]

He is a master at his specialist skill-saving clubs. He has succeeded in halting our collapse, good job on that. But I hope they buy out his contract at the end of this season and get us a new manager who can then take us into the top 5.

 

[mike91efc]

You lost me here

Yes. Both have premier league experience and both add something different to the team. McCarthy of his first season form was ace. Mori was finding some kind of form and adapting to English football before he got injured. Both would be great under Big Sam. Just look at Williams and Holgates improvments under Big Sam.

 

[Bluerobins]

Some total selective memory on this thread. We've been playing crap for years. We've always flattered to deceive and have always had a very fragile mindset when up against the 'big' teams. Even if BFS can change this mentality and kick us on to bigger and better things then I'm with him. Let us wait and see and everyone calm down

 

[sd_1992]

Some total selective memory on this thread. We've been playing crap for years. We've always flattered to deceive and have always had a very fragile mindset when up against the 'big' teams. Even if BFS can change this mentality and kick us on to bigger and better things then I'm with him. Let us wait and see and everyone calm down

He is setting us up for draws against bottom of the table teams like West Brom... that kind of mentality isn't ever going to change...

 

[COYBL25]

We briefly flirted with the.

He is setting us up for draws against bottom of the table teams like West Brom... that kind of mentality isn't ever going to change...

He's setting us up for draws against everyone, wins are just a bonus.

 

[Bluerobins]

He is setting us up for draws against bottom of the table teams like West Brom... that kind of mentality isn't ever going to change...

It totally will. He hasn't got the defenders to change it with yet. Give him a chance, we have a woeful team that he's managing to make hard to beat

 

[Axlswhk]

2 months ago we can't even score and conceded goals for fun. I cannot agree with you regarding your argument because we are not going to win every game and sometimes we might get a point away from home. On the other hand, I expect we win most matches at Goodison apart from facing Sky6 teams.

I do believe we have to win against Bournemouth this Sat though because they lost to other teams apart from the Sky6 teams, at home this season.

We’ll probably park the bus again.

 

[Gladystweet]

Some total selective memory on this thread. We've been playing crap for years. We've always flattered to deceive and have always had a very fragile mindset when up against the 'big' teams. Even if BFS can change this mentality and kick us on to bigger and better things then I'm with him. Let us wait and see and everyone calm down

I think a lot of it is down to frustration mate. I've seen a few false dawns in my time, some have seen more than me. I don't think anyone could have predicted we'd be on our third manager this season, and the third being Sam, after the hopes we all had...or the hopes I had at least!!
Some will never accept him, I never wanted him myself, but if someone could promise me we'd get safe, play some better footy, get 7th in the league, have a top top manager in place, then Sam stands down, I'd take that all day

But this is Everton, nothing is guaranteed at Everton....

 

[sd_1992]

It totally will. He hasn't got the defenders to change it with yet. Give him a chance, we have a woeful team that he's managing to make hard to beat

He has never done it before but ok.... anyone thinking we will ever play anything other than hoofball under him is just deluding themselves

 

[JLW]

We’ll probably park the bus again.

There’s no probably about it mate that’s his style! Defend in numbers then launch it and feed of the scraps (knock downs) then go from there! That’s why he does ok in the relegation fights, unfortunately we’re stuck with him even though we’re not in one and never was.
It really is painful to watch at the minute.

*awaits the “would you rather us attack and get beat shouts”

No I would like us to attack and defend as a team with positive results.

 

[Bluerobins]

He has never done it before but ok.... anyone thinking we will ever play anything other than hoofball under him is just deluding themselves

He's not going to turn into Pep over night, I'm not daft. We are the biggest team he has ever managed and please remember, no one else wanted to come here are we were a basket case

 

[Bluerobins]

I think a lot of it is down to frustration mate. I've seen a few false dawns in my time, some have seen more than me. I don't think anyone could have predicted we'd be on our third manager this season, and the third being Sam, after the hopes we all had...or the hopes I had at least!!
Some will never accept him, I never wanted him myself, but if someone could promise me we'd get safe, play some better footy, get 7th in the league, have a top top manager in place, then Sam stands down, I'd take that all day

But this is Everton, nothing is guaranteed at Everton....

I agree with you, but until he actually does something to change the team in to his own vision we can't say anything

 

[Gladystweet]

I agree with you, but until he actually does something to change the team in to his own vision we can't say anything

Oh I'm not mate. January can't come quick enough for me, then we can see what'll happen.
I'm just glad we're relatively safe again, I was genuinely worried.

 

[EFC78]

So BFS gets his January signings and next year we will be challenging for top four ? Not a chance and I think most on here really know it. He has hit his ceiling already with draws against 2 of the "big" teams, bask in this now, lap it up, this is as good as it is going to get under him. I never fell for the panic that enveloped the club and most fans, it was just too early in the season and we had a tough start. Cant wait to get shut and forget that he was ever allowed into our club.

So we didn't actually get humiliated in the space of a few days by Atalanta and Southampton then? One who hadn't won away all season and stuck 5 past us on our own ground, and another who stuck half their seasons goal tally past us in 1 game and have been getting hit for 4 and 5 home and away since we played them?

Tough start...tougher than Burnley's away games where they picked up a win at Stamford Bridge, and got draws at Wembley and Anfield? After our tough start we then faced a run of fixtures against Limassol (H), Burnley (H) and Brighton (A) and couldn't win any of them. In reality our team was dire under Koeman and similarly as spineless under Unsworth where the humiliations against average sides continued.

Allardyce has sorted that out and made us hard to beat. People also seem to be forgetting/ignoring Allardyce managed to snatch us our only win away in the league in the last 11 months.