Sam Allardyce

[Papa Shango]

We’ll never know because any pace or flair has been well and truly binned for the workman like approach and good old hoofing it.

Hopefully we’ll show Bournemouth the same amount of respect as we should West Brom and sit nice and deep. Screw that they’re as open as whores minge, we’ll absorb and hopefully sneak a point

“Get in there Yannick lad, you’re a bit fast. Chase these into the corner”

Like who exactly?

Lennon has pace and has been brought in more. Other than that who else are we not playing who has pace and flair and has been binned off? Lookman and Vlasic? Two kids, one who isn't even a flair player and ticks the hard working box more.

Klaassen? Sandro? Mirallas??

 

[nsno-chris]

Already happened under Koeman, but ok this is football.

It did, he lost the plot. Board panicked and now we’ve got good old hoofball Sam bottling it at West Brom

 

[Steve Wigan]

Please, this has to stop.

Giving equivalency to Allardyce and Mourinho is something that's been touted desperately on here for the past few weeks. It's ridiculous. In no way shape or form are they alike. Mourinho is one of the greatest tacticians the game has known for generations. He outwits other managers/teams when required by nullifying quality, but only in order to then impose his own attacking plan on them. There's a strategy there to identify particular vulnerable points and exploit them intelligently and ruthlessly. Sam just gets 10 behind the ball and hopes for a free kick or corner opportunity.

It's like comparing Garry Kasparov with Fred Dibnah.

Fred blew up chimneys better than anyone, Garry was the ultimate chess tactician. Give SAm the quality of player that Mourhino has been able to use, and you might find that the two managers skills would not be that far apart. Reason for that is that Sam is a knowledgeable, experienced manager of football teams, just like Mourhino. They both rely on basic football principles, its just the quality of the players they have which is different.

 

[nsno-chris]

Like who exactly?

Lennon has pace and has been brought in more. Other than that who else are we not playing who has pace and flair and has been binned off? Lookman and Vlasic? Two kids, one who isn't even a flair player and ticks the hard working box more.

Klaassen? Sandro? Mirallas??

You put pace in the team and it gives the opposition second thoughts on flooding forward.

And everyone of those you’ve mentioned would walk into every team we’ve beaten under sam, as well as West Brom

 

[Khalekan]

Spot on. He's clearly not here for the long term. It looks very much like he'll part company having done his job: keep this basket case team in the Premier League and comfortably. I can be grateful for that, there's a parallel universe somewhere where Marco Silva took over this team in November and had us playing pretty triangles all the way into the Championship, forever altering the course of the club's future.

Still shuddering at the thoughts of Marco Silva

After Koeman and the near miss with Silva, I think Moshiri needs to kept under house arrest when next we need a manager.

 

[Khalekan]

Please, this has to stop.

Giving equivalency to Allardyce and Mourinho is something that's been touted desperately on here for the past few weeks. It's ridiculous. In no way shape or form are they alike. Mourinho is one of the greatest tacticians the game has known for generations.

It's like comparing Garry Kasparov with Fred Dibnah

lol

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

It did, he lost the plot. Board panicked and now we’ve got good old hoofball Sam bottling it at West Brom

He didn't really bottle it mate

 

[MikeH72]

It did, he lost the plot. Board panicked and now we’ve got good old hoofball Sam bottling it at West Brom

Whereas we definitely weren't previously bottling it at Southampton, Leicester, Burnley at home and getting thrashed by mid-table Italian teams and every top 6 team in this country.

Mental how quickly people have forgotten where we came from because they're absolutely desperate to not accept Allardyce has improved us.

 

[nsno-chris]

He didn't really bottle it mate

I’d disagree Mikey, setting the stall out for a point against a team that hasn’t won in 18 games and only registering one shot on goal in the 89th minute. To me, that’s a total bottle job and would only be acceptable at the back end of March if you’re fighting for points

 

[nsno-chris]

Whereas we definitely weren't previously bottling it at Southampton, Leicester, Burnley at home and getting thrashed by mid-table Italian teams and every top 6 team in this country.

Mental how quickly people have forgotten where we came from because they're absolutely desperate to not accept Allardyce has improved us.

Sat deeper and went to basics. That’s all he’s done, no miracle worker at all.

Koeman lost the plot, changed his defence every week yet kept Morgan who was bang out of form

And Unsworth well out of his league.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

I’d disagree Mikey, setting the stall out for a point against a team that hasn’t won in 18 games and only registering one shot on goal in the 89th minute. To me, that’s a total bottle job and would only be acceptable at the back end of March if you’re fighting for points

He wasn't set up for a draw though mate

His plan was to soak up the attacks and then counter with a goal of our own

In the last 20 minutes we had chances but didn't take them

One of those chances goes in and we win

Same with the Keane header against Chelsea. That's on target and we win

Allardyce doesn't want 0-0, he wants us to win 1-0 from a goal on the counter

Sometimes it'll work and other times it won't. He'll live with the 0-0 if it happens like, but his ultimate goal is to win the football match

 

[Brennan]

Whereas we definitely weren't previously bottling it at Southampton, Leicester, Burnley at home and getting thrashed by mid-table Italian teams and every top 6 team in this country.

Mental how quickly people have forgotten where we came from because they're absolutely desperate to not accept Allardyce has improved us.

Only team to not get beaten by City at the Etihad this season, under Koeman.

 

[MikeH72]

Sat deeper and went to basics. That’s all he’s done, no miracle worker at all.

Koeman lost the plot, changed his defence every week yet kept Morgan who was bang out of form

And Unsworth well out of his league.

So you are acknowledging that we have improved under Slimmer-than-usual Sam? That's all I wanted frând x

 

[davek]

Fred blew up chimneys better than anyone, Garry was the ultimate chess tactician. Give SAm the quality of player that Mourhino has been able to use, and you might find that the two managers skills would not be that far apart. Reason for that is that Sam is a knowledgeable, experienced manager of football teams, just like Mourhino. They both rely on basic football principles, its just the quality of the players they have which is different.

Please make this stop.

 

[davek]

Only team to not get beaten by City at the Etihad this season, under Koeman.

Yeah, you picked a real winner to back there.