A really good point. We haven't had a real style or intent for a long time and we've certainly lacked in the ability to impose ourselves on games.
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Baffling me. Ridiculously negative selections for the last two games. We’re far enough away from the relegation places to now try to have a balanced team and play football
Bar the lukaku f--- up last season, this summer brought me such hope, finally someone putting some money into our club, someone else wanting us to take that nxt step, from the youth system to the first team squad and even a new stadium on the horizon, who couldn't be happy! And now I find myself stuck in a Sam allardyce thread on the back end of a defeat at Bournemouth! Can someone please wake me up from this awful nightmare..
Paul E
Player Valuation: £1m
Can’t wait for him to get the boot in the summer. He must pinch himself every night that he has the gig at my football club. Horrendous tactician if you want to win games. He’ll get found out soon enough again like he has done at every club.
1 point against two teams in the bottom 3. 4 shots on target in those games. 5 at the back on one game against a team that hadn’t won in 3 months and today 3 defensive midfielders against a team that hadn’t won in 8. Embarrassing.
We are the epitome of medicroty with him in charge. “But we’re not letting in goals” - don’t make me laugh. He’s another nail in the coffin of our once great club whilst the big 6 continue to improve and make strategic advances for their futures.
We finished 7th because of Barkley and Lukaku and we’ve lost them both because we had no plan and no balls. Now we’re a mess again.
This is less to do with today's defeat, as that will be a common theme, and more to do with me being sick of us being bang average in every facet of the football club.
1 point against two teams in the bottom 3. 4 shots on target in those games. 5 at the back on one game against a team that hadn’t won in 3 months and today 3 defensive midfielders against a team that hadn’t won in 8. Embarrassing.
We are the epitome of medicroty with him in charge. “But we’re not letting in goals” - don’t make me laugh. He’s another nail in the coffin of our once great club whilst the big 6 continue to improve and make strategic advances for their futures.
We finished 7th because of Barkley and Lukaku and we’ve lost them both because we had no plan and no balls. Now we’re a mess again.
This is less to do with today's defeat, as that will be a common theme, and more to do with me being sick of us being bang average in every facet of the football club.
grandjoeblue
Player Valuation: £35m
Would Martina, Jagielka, Kenny, DCL, Schneiderlin, McCarthy and Lennon get a game for Bournemouth? I'd say we're fairly similar in terms of our current first 11 but we do have Rooney and Pickford which probably puts us above them.
I don't think we should be going for a draw but before Sam come in we were losing these games comfortably each week and now we're doing alright even though today was poor. Midtable with our current 11 isn't bad.
Paul E
Player Valuation: £1m
Jesus Christ. How far we have fallen
brieverton
Player Valuation: £50m
The squad has been decimated with inferior replacements or no replacements brought in. Walsh was culpable as well and should have been made accountable.
So we are left with a mix of players either past their best or too young to be expected to play so regularly, combined with injury-prone players and those simply not good enough for what we want. Not to mention an embarrassing lack of cover in some areas.
We can't and don't compete against the Top 6, and are far too dependent on our home form to pick up points.
With this squad, on any given day, and particularly away from home, there isn't going to be much in it against whatever opponent we play, and that goes for any of the other 13 teams excluding the Top 6.
To get wins, we depend on what little quality we have coming to the fore, most notably an aging Rooney and an inconsistent Sigurdsson. We rely mostly on effort and organisation, and a fair share of luck, to be able to expect to come out with 3 points whether we are playing Burnley or Swansea, or whoever.
Quality, effort, and luck. We have little of the former, and much of the latter recently. The players have picked up in effort and organisation since Allardyce was appointed.
There is a 4th element - tactics/managerial input and this is where the division is on Sam. I can see why he places an almost total emphasis on clean sheets since we offer so little in an attacking sense. It has been no different all season. Koeman said he wanted more productivity in the team and he and Walsh singularly failed to bring that to the table.
Once again it is Moshiri that holds the key - if the intention is that Allardyce is to be paid off in the summer and a supposedly more suitable manager brought in - then I have no qualms with that at all but our problems run deep and are not going to be fixed in the sort of timeframe wished for without serious investment - that old chestnut again.
Whoever is manager will need a big cash input - I'm not sure if that is available and if it is, how can we be confident that the mistakes of the summer will not be repeated?
Till then, results like todays will be inevitable and occur often enough unfortunately - we are just not that good for better I'm afraid.
So we are left with a mix of players either past their best or too young to be expected to play so regularly, combined with injury-prone players and those simply not good enough for what we want. Not to mention an embarrassing lack of cover in some areas.
We can't and don't compete against the Top 6, and are far too dependent on our home form to pick up points.
With this squad, on any given day, and particularly away from home, there isn't going to be much in it against whatever opponent we play, and that goes for any of the other 13 teams excluding the Top 6.
To get wins, we depend on what little quality we have coming to the fore, most notably an aging Rooney and an inconsistent Sigurdsson. We rely mostly on effort and organisation, and a fair share of luck, to be able to expect to come out with 3 points whether we are playing Burnley or Swansea, or whoever.
Quality, effort, and luck. We have little of the former, and much of the latter recently. The players have picked up in effort and organisation since Allardyce was appointed.
There is a 4th element - tactics/managerial input and this is where the division is on Sam. I can see why he places an almost total emphasis on clean sheets since we offer so little in an attacking sense. It has been no different all season. Koeman said he wanted more productivity in the team and he and Walsh singularly failed to bring that to the table.
Once again it is Moshiri that holds the key - if the intention is that Allardyce is to be paid off in the summer and a supposedly more suitable manager brought in - then I have no qualms with that at all but our problems run deep and are not going to be fixed in the sort of timeframe wished for without serious investment - that old chestnut again.
Whoever is manager will need a big cash input - I'm not sure if that is available and if it is, how can we be confident that the mistakes of the summer will not be repeated?
Till then, results like todays will be inevitable and occur often enough unfortunately - we are just not that good for better I'm afraid.
evertonarntwe
Player Valuation: £35m
We really are. Bournemouth have a couple of half decent strikers other than that they are a far worse team than we are we should be beating them every day of the week
He’s the English Mourinho lids.
hktoffee
Birds of a feather flock together
It's like he will be at the club forever.
evertonarntwe
Player Valuation: £35m
Martina and Dcl no but Lennon and jags shouldn' even be getting into our team so who' that on? Both terrible players. Schneiderlin would absolutely walk into they're team. Why? Because he's a good player when he has runners infront of him not surround by 7 defensive players a headless chicken in dcl
They won’t draw another it will be b2b defeats for us
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