Sam Allardyce

[kenada_blue]

That's bollocks though. We have man united and England's record scorer, a £45m attacking mid with stats up there with the best prem attacking mids, Klaassen and sandro got 35 goals between them last season.

Don't rate any of them apart from Rooney...who has 10 goals.

That's me.

 

[ToffeeDan]

If someone doesn't sort this friggin mess out.. you know the one that's seen Stones, Barkley and Lukaku essentially be replaced by Williams and Niasse, we will be going the same way as Aston Villa, Newcastle and the like.

It needs a manager to have the guts to sort out the troublemakers, get shut of the dross and reinvigorate the likes of Tom Davies. Too many passengers, too few giving a toss..

 

[The_La]

Not too worried about today. Better teams than us have been and will be battered by spurs at Wembley. We know our issues and I think they'll be addressed in the rest of January.

Our hardest part of the season is officially over now. We've played all of the big 6 away apart from Arsenal, and only have City and Liverpool left to play at home. For the rest of the season I expect us to get comfortably enough points with the likes of Bolasie, Coleman and McCarthy gradually playing themselves into fitness ready for next year, while Tosun beds in and scores 5 or 6 too. Important we win two or three games early on in the run so we don't get too panicky, but we'll be fine.
As for Allardyce's record, I think if you averaged out the games/points we've picked up since he's arrived, we have done absolutely fine. Bournemouth aside, the games we've lost have been ones you'd kind of expect: Spurs and United, plus the Liverpool cup game.
I'm not advocating that he has the job long term, but I think we all underestimate just how broken this squad is. We are horrifically imbalance, with nowhere near enough pace and, pre-January, no high quality attacking threat. Injuries haven't helped either.
We will be fine, if unexciting. Roll on next season.

 

[orly]

Stop hand-picking your stats. The last 6 have included Chelsea, United, Spurs and Liverpool. Is that a lovely run of games?

I'm not saying he's the long-term appointment, but there has undoubtedly been an improvement. Any reasonable fan would say he's done a decent enough job so far given the state of what awaited him.

He has a worse win percentage than Martinez, Koeman, Unsworth, all of them.

How are these stats hand-picked? Unsworth had to go to Lyon away, Chelsea away, Leicester away etc etc.

All the reasonable fans on here are seeing Allardyce for what he is, and always has been. A low 30s% manager who gets his teams playing diabolical football.

The ones that aren't tend to have no defense for him at all (like you) or memers.

 

[mightymoyes]

Get a left back in and don't let this fool spend anymore as everton manager

 

[hktoffee]

He is trying to give the fans what they want as well as win games, which is not working in his favor. Until we get a stable unit in, we are going to go through lapses like today and get railed unless we parallel park on the goal line like we did his first few games here.

Crazy like. Will cause him his job. Why trying to be expansive against the Sky 6 teams?

 

[orly]

Why are people so arsed about subsets of statistics that don't matter?

Show me the shots on target for Swansea, Southampton, Palace etc. for the same games we've had. Otherwise you're not comparing like with like.

Anyone know how many £45m midfielders those sides have please? Or all-time England top scorers?

Or that have had £300m spent on them in the last four years.

'Like-for-like'.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

We had a lot of luck in his run of games when he came first came in, that luck ran out the other week.

 

[ProZ]

It’s the no shots on target that is the main problem for me.

Although I expected us to get beaten today, we arnt even threatening which is a massive concern now we are letting them in aswel.

 

[Berenger]

He has a worse win percentage than Martinez, Koeman, Unsworth, all of them.

How are these stats hand-picked? Unsworth had to go to Lyon away, Chelsea away, Leicester away etc etc.

All the reasonable fans on here are seeing Allardyce for what he is, and always has been. A low 30s% manager who gets his teams playing diabolical football.

The ones that aren't tend to have no defense for him at all (like you) or memers.

"We've conceded 11 goals in the last 6". Allardyce has been at Everton for more than 6 games. So you are hand-picking a stat because it looks worse. If you picked the games with all the clean sheets it would look quite good and wouldn't fit your argument.

Your second sentence is pure assertion.

Your third sentence is a waste of megabytes.

 

[roydo]

"After the second goal went in we folded, and I am shocked that the players did that"

Blimey.

 

[catcherintherye]

@catcherintherye

@Eggs

My office at full-time please.

I've continually got my timings out on Allardyce, so I'm saying no more as I've made myself look stupid enough mate!

 

[StateSideToffee]

Hated the idea of Sam being signed when it was rumored. Hated it even more when we made the mistake of actually following through with it. And still hate the man after he’s been here a few games now. I can’t be alone in this. Does Everton FC give even a single $h17 about their fans at all? It’s as if they are intentionally sabotaging the club; trying to drive out the fans. Here we all are saying; we desperately don’t want this rumored manager so what do they do? Sign him any way. Just seems like a massive “Expletive you” to the fan base.

 

[Connor]

Not too worried about today. Better teams than us have been and will be battered by spurs at Wembley. We know our issues and I think they'll be addressed in the rest of January.

Our hardest part of the season is officially over now. We've played all of the big 6 away apart from Arsenal, and only have City and Liverpool left to play at home. For the rest of the season I expect us to get comfortably enough points with the likes of Bolasie, Coleman and McCarthy gradually playing themselves into fitness ready for next year, while Tosun beds in and scores 5 or 6 too. Important we win two or three games early on in the run so we don't get too panicky, but we'll be fine.
As for Allardyce's record, I think if you averaged out the games/points we've picked up since he's arrived, we have done absolutely fine. Bournemouth aside, the games we've lost have been ones you'd kind of expect: Spurs and United, plus the Liverpool cup game.
I'm not advocating that he has the job long term, but I think we all underestimate just how broken this squad is. We are horrifically imbalance, with nowhere near enough pace and, pre-January, no high quality attacking threat. Injuries haven't helped either.
We will be fine, if unexciting. Roll on next season.

You've got your head firmly buried in the sand then mate.

 

[orly]

"We've conceded 11 goals in the last 6". Allardyce has been at Everton for more than 6 games. So you are hand-picking a stat because it looks worse. If you picked the games with all the clean sheets it would look quite good and wouldn't fit your argument.

Your second sentence is pure assertion.

Your third sentence is a waste of megabytes.

Sure, no problem, I'll include all 11 of his games. Oh dear, he's won 3 of them. He's lost more than he's won.

Your second sentence is pure assertion.

???

Unsworth had to go to Lyon away, Chelsea away, Leicester away etc etc.

That's not an assertion, that's a fact.

Your third sentence is a waste of megabytes

Ah, no counter-argument at all. Well done.