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Sam Allardyce

So, what next?

  • IN. Give him a chance and see what he can do?

    Votes: 79 8.3%
  • OUT. Thanks but no thanks. See Ya?

    Votes: 758 79.3%
  • As ever. Cheese on Toast

    Votes: 25 2.6%
  • Er, I am a bit scared of us Evertoning this right up.

    Votes: 94 9.8%

  • Total voters
    956
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You'll have to wait a bit longer I fear mate, as although a lot of the fan boys have slunk back into the shadows, there's still a fair few who think he's the answer.

Reassuringly few now, and they tend to be the ones who were peddling the "Sizeable Sam" memes to bone-grindingly boring effect after a win at Newcastle.

You can find them slating Rooney, Lukaku, Barkley and so on under the same rock
 

What are we

We’re a team with a poorly balanced squad, poor centre-halfs, a load of young lads, a manager that’s basically a walking, talking football meme, a chairman that has resided over the most unsuccessful spell in our history, a new majority shareholder that evidently knows little about the game and we’ve not won silverware since god was a lad.

That’s what we are.
 
The point is relevant, you don’t accept mediocrity if you harbour greater ambitions.
But what if you're absolutely desperate? We should never have been in a position where bringing Allardyce in was the necessary thing to do. But after the start we had and the rate we were falling I'm not sure there would have been many managers good enough who would have taken the risk on midway through the season. The whole thing has been terribly managed. We're paying Allardyce £6m a year ffs. It shows how unattractive a proposition we were to be paying him that.
 
We’re a team with a poorly balanced squad, poor centre-halfs, a load of young lads, a manager that’s basically a walking, talking football meme, a chairman that has resided over the most unsuccessful spell in our history, a new majority shareholder that evidently knows little about the game and we’ve not won silverware since god was a lad.

That’s what we are.
Grim reading but so true. It needs turned around quickly, all of the above, or I fear for our future as a club, and I mean far beyond this season. It's been nose diving since Martinez 2nd season imo.
 

Grim reading but so true. It needs turned around quickly, all of the above, or I fear for our future as a club, and I mean far beyond this season. It's been nose diving since Martinez 2nd season imo.

It's just relentless mismanagement.

We needed a new centre-half desperately, so we went out and spent £9.5m on Funes Mori. God awful, had no experience of the league etc etc.
We needed to replace Stones, got given £50m to do it, and we've ended up with Mason Holgate being our best option.
We needed to replace Barry, and have spent £50m+ buying vastly worse alternatives.
We needed a new striker to take the load off Lukaku, we spent £13.5m on Niasse.
We needed a new striker when Lukaku got sold, we were given £90m to do it with, and we started the season with Niasse and Calvert-Lewin, who genuinely couldn't find a team mate for 30 mins today.
And now, when we thought it couldn't get much worse, we appoint Sam Allardyce, who has actually made an appalling football team into, well, a team that has managed no shots in the first half in 6 games in his time, and three games in the league with no shots on target, something we didn't manage in 222 games beforehand.

How Allardyce has managed to make us worse is totally beyond me.
 
Grim reading but so true. It needs turned around quickly, all of the above, or I fear for our future as a club, and I mean far beyond this season. It's been nose diving since Martinez 2nd season imo.

It could easily turn into Sunderland or Villa. I look at that squad and think to myself who would anyone actually buy off us for decent money. We've sold our best players and replaced them with a bunch that clearly aren't up to it. That's exactly the road Villa went down, they also threw the youngsters under the bus.

It's really crunch time over the next six months. Can we recruit a manage to take us forward for the next 4/5 years or are we going to start flirting with relegation on a regular basis? That's how desperate this is.
 
It's just relentless mismanagement.

We needed a new centre-half desperately, so we went out and spent £9.5m on Funes Mori. God awful, had no experience of the league etc etc.
We needed to replace Stones, got given £50m to do it, and we've ended up with Mason Holgate being our best option.
We needed to replace Barry, and have spent £50m+ buying vastly worse alternatives.
We needed a new striker to take the load off Lukaku, we spent £13.5m on Niasse.
We needed a new striker when Lukaku got sold, we were given £90m to do it with, and we started the season with Niasse and Calvert-Lewin, who genuinely couldn't find a team mate for 30 mins today.
And now, when we thought it couldn't get much worse, we appoint Sam Allardyce, who has actually made an appalling football team into, well, a team that has managed no shots in the first half in 6 games in his time, and three games in the league with no shots on target, something we didn't manage in 222 games beforehand.

How Allardyce has managed to make us worse is totally beyond me.
Agree with all of that mate, point I'm getting at is that all of the above if not rectified could affect us as a club negatively for years to come. We look like we are regressing in every department bar in a few areas like the books being balanced and now we actually spending money (albeit neglectfully).

Edit. Regardarding Sam, I never expected much but I did think it would be better than it currently is considering he's a man that prides himself on doing the basics right which tbf seemed like a big part of our issue as a team. Will Walcott and a left back really change this situation dramatically?
 
Agree with all of that mate, point I'm getting at is that all of the above if not rectified could affect us as a club negatively for years to come. We look like we are regressing in every department bar in a few areas like the books being balanced and now we actually spending money (albeit neglectfully).

We are in danger of it tipping into a Villa style situation if we are not careful.

I think people would be more tolerant if a manager had come in and at least tried something different, but everyone has just used that same dull as dishwater Martinez formation and just hoped it would magically work. All we have done is switched pointless short passes for aimless hoofs.

At one point today Kenny knocked it to McCarthy, who played it sideways (the shock) and Kenny ran onto it, twenty yards of space all around him, and just wellied it to the Spurs corner flag. Totally crazy.
 
Agree with all of that mate, point I'm getting at is that all of the above if not rectified could affect us as a club negatively for years to come. We look like we are regressing in every department bar in a few areas like the books being balanced and now we actually spending money (albeit neglectfully).

Edit. Regardarding Sam, I never expected much but I did think it would be better than it currently is considering he's a man that prides himself on doing the basics right which tbf seemed like a big part of our issue as a team. Will Walcott and a left back really change this situation dramatically?
He knows how to park a bus and feed of scraps, but when he has to come out and attack or chase a game the man is clueless.... the sooner he leaves or gets sacked from Everton football club the better we will be. It won’t be long before the masses are calling for his massive head
 

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