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Sam Allardyce

So, what next?

  • IN. Give him a chance and see what he can do?

    Votes: 79 8.3%
  • OUT. Thanks but no thanks. See Ya?

    Votes: 758 79.3%
  • As ever. Cheese on Toast

    Votes: 25 2.6%
  • Er, I am a bit scared of us Evertoning this right up.

    Votes: 94 9.8%

  • Total voters
    956
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Well so much for justice then,something smells fishy to the press then off to prison you go!What he did was tell undercover reporters how it's done.Do you honestly think he's the only Prem manager who knows?

Plenty of people do things, don't get caught and don't go to prison. Does not mean they did not do it though. Loads of people in society are known cheats and have never been caught, but they still did the cheating. And the premise of your argument is the England fiasco, there have been stories galore over the years of alleged bungs, brown envelopes etc. Of course I am not able to categorically state that he DID do those things, but .....
 
Some words of wisdom to help us through....



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Wise words indeed, Dave.

Also wise to remember:

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Well so much for justice then,something smells fishy to the press then off to prison you go!What he did was tell undercover reporters how it's done.Do you honestly think he's the only Prem manager who knows?

That was only that one time when he was England manager. He was also investigated for allegedly taking money for signing certain players and also allegedly forcing players to sign with certain agents or he wouldn't play them. I guess we'll soon see now all the old mates are together again.
 

Well so much for justice then,something smells fishy to the press then off to prison you go!

That's not what I said whatsoever. I said there's no proof and according to UK law there's satisfaction no wrongdoing occurred with the evidence presented to them.

So you can only go on what's in the public domain. Maybe you can wonder why, after working to get to the pinnacle of his profession, and indeed his dream job to boot, the man then allows himself to be caught in a rudimentary newspaper sting advising people how to circumvent rules that his own employer have implemented. At best it's incredibly stupid. There are other words you can use too. Bent, greedy, egotistal, nihilistic......
 
I thought that was good interview (5 minute one) on the main site. He knows exactly what he wants each and every individual to do. I don't imagine Koeman cared a jot about the players. I'm hopeful
 
Plenty of people do things, don't get caught and don't go to prison. Does not mean they did not do it though. Loads of people in society are known cheats and have never been caught, but they still did the cheating. And the premise of your argument is the England fiasco, there have been stories galore over the years of alleged bungs, brown envelopes etc. Of course I am not able to categorically state that he DID do those things, but .....
The thing is HMRC (are they still called that?) would be all over any slight suspicion of anything like he's being linked with.Given the recent Paradise Papers scandal,the chances of keeping cash bungs quiet would be near impossible.
 

Heard a clip of him earlier saying he was going to look to the experienced players and ask them what they can do better. I guess he's not been watching us much this season then cos it's those players who are the problem.
 
The thing is HMRC (are they still called that?) would be all over any slight suspicion of anything like he's being linked with.Given the recent Paradise Papers scandal,the chances of keeping cash bungs quiet would be near impossible.

Are you seriously that naive mate?
 
That's not what I said whatsoever. I said there's no proof and according to UK law there's satisfaction no wrongdoing occurred with the evidence presented to them.

So you can only go on what's in the public domain. Maybe you can wonder why, after working to get to the pinnacle of his profession, and indeed his dream job to boot, the man then allows himself to be caught in a rudimentary newspaper sting advising people how to circumvent rules that his own employer have implemented. At best it's incredibly stupid. There are other words you can use too. Bent, greedy, egotistal, nihilistic......
Being stupid after a few drinks isn't criminal or the jails would be full.Still maybe Moshiri employed him to make the spotlight point eleswhere.
 

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