Sam Allardyce

[People75]

Seem like the Koeman saga, all over again.

We need a manager, who want us to play football, and not what we are doing right now.

But that may take a few months, to reach the board, if at all.

 

[spudmuncher]

He thought we were 'too attacking' yesterday and at least partly pinned that on the fact that we were beaten heavily.

Hmmm.

Ya ... unbelievable,
.. too attacking and no shots on target... imagine us being ultra defensive

 

[Papa Shango]

I never mentioned the cost of the squad. I said we shouldn't give the manager anymore money as he'll spend it on absolute dross that we won't be able to move on.

And until recently, Everton was a club that believed it should be challenging for trophies and competing at the top end of league. Now our success is measured by if we don't get spanked at a top 6 side away from home, or if we manage a draw at anfield.

Ok....first of all how do you know he will spend it on dross? He has signed one player for us so far.

There are fans going to Goodison week in week out who have never seen us win anything or even come close to it. So again, what type of club are we exactly?

We know what we want to be. Every club wants to be that though.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Seem like the Koeman saga, all over again.

We need a manager, who want us to play football, and not what we are doing right now.

But that may take a few months, to reach the board, if at all.

The board are not bothered about on pitch performance as long as we stay in the league.

 

[Papa Shango]

Seem like the Koeman saga, all over again.

We need a manager, who want us to play football, and not what we are doing right now.

But that may take a few months, to reach the board, if at all.

They are the same players.....what are people expecting?

Good squad etc etc....no they are not.

 

[brian labone]

I never thought I would say this after such a short period of time but this man has got to go now, or at least asap for the sake of my sanity please no more time.

 

[People75]

They are the same players.....what are people expecting?

Good squad etc etc....no they are not.

Precise. What to do? It's all around.

 

[paulf]

He thinks he’s a cool dude but the pressure is getting to him having not managed at a club like us before. He first started on touchline looking like he cared. Now he is what I thought about him before he arrived sitting slovenly chewing and chatting crap to whoever is next to him. I always try to remain positive coz us being us having some glory I feel it’s our turn soon. With this regime it ain’t happening anytime soon. If he doesn’t get a win against a shocking West Brom side He’ll start to feel Goodison in full toxic mode.

 

[davek]

Points gained depend on opposition form too. So you contradict yourself.

But that’s beside the point. Give me a number of points per game you expected from Unsworth and from Allardyce.

You won’t give it because you know that Unsie lost games we could’ve expected to get points from, and Allardyce has so far gained points from matches we’d be expected to lose.

Again not a defence of Allardyce, but your argument that he’s not an improvement on Unsie and Koeman is really, really weak.

It's not weak, and it's not methodologically robust - but that's because it's based on the only data available, as I cant conjure up 5 more PL games that Unsworth managed to identically compare him with Allardyce.

I can only make a judgement on what's in front of me. If you disagree with the method, I understand. But what you cant disagree with is that we shifted 5 places up the table under Unsworth.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Even Allardyce has been Evertoned. The relegation expert who got big away wins at Palace and Sunderland can’t even get a shot out of us. We truly are a shambolic club.

 

[efcforever]

Everyone should throw pies onto the pitch against West Brom

He'd love that though. He'd get a free lunch!

 

[Berenger]

It's not weak, and it's not methodologically robust - but that's because it's based on the only data available, as I cant conjure up 5 more PL games that Unsworth managed to identically compare him with Allardyce.

I can only make a judgement on what's in front of me. If you disagree with the method, I understand. But what you cant disagree with is that we shifted 5 places up the table under Unsworth.

Last chance to improve your method: how many points did you expect from each game under each manager this season?

 

[technojoe]

Even Allardyce has been Evertoned. The relegation expert who got big away wins at Palace and Sunderland can’t even get a shot out of us. We truly are a shambolic club.

Crud Squad not club.

 

[davek]

Last chance to improve your method: how many points did you expect from each game under each manager this season?

It's entirely subjective and for that reason I can give you what I feel would have been acceptable and you'd every right to dispute it because subjectively you disagree.

Two cast iron facts are: points per game Unsworth outstrips Allardyce; places gained Unsworth just pips Allardyce.

 

[davids]

Not exactly making much of a case for employing Allardyce! In fact absolutely no case.

So you would have employed who then?