Sam Allardyce

[bluestevon]

Also it was Hodgson looking at him

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...-besiktas-striker-cenk-tosun-says-roy-hodgson

According to Milliyet’s Besiktas reporter Serdar Saridag, Everton manager Sam Allardyce has personally phoned Cenk Tosun in recent weeks to talk about a transfer.

Sarıdag spoke to Turkish sports channel ASpor last night and said: “What makes Tosun to Everton different is he’s heavily wanted by Everton manager Sam Allardyce himself. He phoned Tosun himself and said to him ‘I want to see you in my squad.’ For me that’s very important to wanted by the manager himself.”

The Turkish striker has been subject of a transfer to Everton in recent weeks, and there’ve been countless reports in the English and Turkish press.

Sabah also report said Allardyce was the man behind Everton’s record breaking offer for Tosun, and not sporting director Steve Walsh.

According to Sabah, Allardyce has been following Tosun since his time at Crystal Palace, and subsequently he’s made him his number one target since arriving at Everton.

 

[davids]

I think that is MASSSIVELY overrated. Klopp(terribly defensive but can at least attack, a better Martinez if you will), Pochettino, Conte, Mourinho, Guardiola, Puel, Silva. Yes, Poch and Mourinho are "PL tested" but they werent when they came in. Those are all foreign managers in the top 10 along with Wenger.

The one thing they all share is that they wanted to manage the clubs that they are at (BTW Silva's Prem experience was relegation with Hull).We sacked Koeman tried to get Silva who preferred to stay with those giants of the Prem Watford.And unless you know something that the rest of the UK sports press don't the only other manager who wanted to take us on was Allardyce.

 

[davids]

Martinez got binned as the football went west, Koeman like wise. Sam will be no different stop kidding yourself.

If it goes any further West we'll be in the Championship next season,but obviously will have nothing to do with the players.

 

[bcblue1878]

Young unknown foreign manager with.no Premiership experience when we were losing and conceding goals for fun...genius!

Not necessarily all "young unknown or even foreign", but Messrs Kendall, and Ferguson, and more recently Mourinho, Pochettinho and probably others if I could be bothered looking, all had no top league experience when they were appointed at clubs in the old Division one (before football was invented for some I know!) and now the Premier League, and in one or two cases those clubs were losing and conceding goals for fun! But what they all bought to their various parties was some ambition and importantly new ideas!
What do Everton do panic! Then go out and appoint a manager the sum total of whose ambition is not to get relegated, and whose football idea is to play more defensive football! I said it when he was appointed he'll have us finishing somewhere between 18th and 10th and he'll be delighted with that and tell the world how he saved Everton!
The bloke has no ambition, and no new ideas a bit like certain people (unfortunately) still at the top end of the club!
Hopefully he's gone by the end of May, and if there really are people at the top of the club with any ideas and ambition they'll already know who is taking over and I for one don't care if he's young, unknown or even foreign - as long as he is given time to go with the ambition and ideas!

 

[davids]

Not necessarily all "young unknown or even foreign", but Messrs Kendall, and Ferguson, and more recently Mourinho, Pochettinho and probably others if I could be bothered looking, all had no top league experience when they were appointed at clubs in the old Division one (before football was invented for some I know!) and now the Premier League, and in one or two cases those clubs were losing and conceding goals for fun! But what they all bought to their various parties was some ambition and importantly new ideas!
What do Everton do panic! Then go out and appoint a manager the sum total of whose ambition is not to get relegated, and whose football idea is to play more defensive football! I said it when he was appointed he'll have us finishing somewhere between 18th and 10th and he'll be delighted with that and tell the world how he saved Everton!
The bloke has no ambition, and no new ideas a bit like certain people (unfortunately) still at the top end of the club!
Hopefully he's gone by the end of May, and if there really are people at the top of the club with any ideas and ambition they'll already know who is taking over and I for one don't care if he's young, unknown or even foreign - as long as he is given time to go with the ambition and ideas!

Kendall was our attempt to emulate the RS boot room and I'm sure you were around when after the 0-0 with Coventry the black edged Kendall/Carter out pamphlets did the rounds, then a lucky attempted pass back changed history.Ferguson " Ferguson then enjoyed a highly successful period as manager of Aberdeen, winning three Scottish league championships, four Scottish Cups and the UEFA Cup Winners' Cup in 1983"... Mourinho the CL with Porto, both no Prem experience but a decent CV...Pochettinho got his chance at Soton after keeping Espanyol in La Liga and managing to lead them to a win at the Camp Nou for the first time in 27 years.As for us,we were linked (only by the press) with Dyche,Tuchel,Rangnick and then the truly bizarre rumours Ancelotti and Simeone.Then followed the ill fated courting of Silva I think it became fairly obvious that the only manager with anything close to a Premiership pedigree was Allardyce and he was the only one remotely interested in taking us on.

 

[bcblue1878]

Kendall was our attempt to emulate the RS boot room and I'm sure you were around when after the 0-0 with Coventry the black edged Kendall/Carter out pamphlets did the rounds, then a lucky attempted pass back changed history.Ferguson " Ferguson then enjoyed a highly successful period as manager of Aberdeen, winning three Scottish league championships, four Scottish Cups and the UEFA Cup Winners' Cup in 1983"... Mourinho the CL with Porto, both no Prem experience but a decent CV...Pochettinho got his chance at Soton after keeping Espanyol in La Liga and managing to lead them to a win at the Camp Nou for the first time in 27 years.As for us,we were linked (only by the press) with Dyche,Tuchel,Rangnick and then the truly bizarre rumours Ancelotti and Simeone.Then followed the ill fated courting of Silva I think it became fairly obvious that the only manager with anything close to a Premiership pedigree was Allardyce and he was the only one remotely interested in taking us on.

Possibly like you I was at that Coventry game - not a great time! I was also at Oxford, the lucky attempted back pass was pretty much down to Reid’s closing Brock down and Inchy having the nous to see what was going on!
Not sure I have ever, or will ever see again the words Premiership pedigree and Allardyce used in the same sentence! May be the reason he was “remotely interested in taking us on” was because by that point, of the sheer incompetence from above and somebody made the decision to pay him six million big ones a year! By that point he had them over a barrel and I bet he thought all his Christmas’s had come at once!
As I said previously I hope the board get their combined act together now if they haven’t already, and have someone with some ambition lined up for the summer!

 

[davids]

Possibly like you I was at that Coventry game - not a great time! I was also at Oxford, the lucky attempted back pass was pretty much down to Reid’s closing Brock down and Inchy having the nous to see what was going on!
Not sure I have ever, or will ever see again the words Premiership pedigree and Allardyce used in the same sentence! May be the reason he was “remotely interested in taking us on” was because by that point, of the sheer incompetence from above and somebody made the decision to pay him six million big ones a year! By that point he had them over a barrel and I bet he thought all his Christmas’s had come at once!
As I said previously I hope the board get their combined act together now if they haven’t already, and have someone with some ambition lined up for the summer!

However much some/most of the forum hate Allardyce keeping Sunderland and Palace up took some doing and what he did getting Bolton into the Prem a League Cup Final and the UEFA Cup was a minor miracle.Like it or not where we are now we have the manager that suits our position...or did you really think Simeone was going to come.

 

[Ron Swanson]

I think that is MASSSIVELY overrated. Klopp(terribly defensive but can at least attack, a better Martinez if you will), Pochettino, Conte, Mourinho, Guardiola, Puel, Silva. Yes, Poch and Mourinho are "PL tested" but they werent when they came in. Those are all foreign managers in the top 10 along with Wenger.

I'm no fan of the yellow-toothed clown on a personal level, but in what world is Klopp in any way comparable to Martinez?!?! They're leagues apart. His Dortmund team defended well, and I hate to say it, his RS defence is starting to come together.

As unpopular as it is to say this here, for me Klopp is the second best manager in the league behind Guardiola. I was a big fan until he went to the RS.

 

[mawders]

Big Sam will steady the ship, we'll finish in the top 10 and then Eddie Howe will come in the summer and we will be a much better team next year

 

[bcblue1878]

However much some/most of the forum hate Allardyce keeping Sunderland and Palace up took some doing and what he did getting Bolton into the Prem a League Cup Final and the UEFA Cup was a minor miracle.Like it or not where we are now we have the manager that suits our position...or did you really think Simeone was going to come.

Simeone - not a chance! But there’s a far more realistic group of managers who we are hopefully looking at who have more ideas and ambition than what we currently have in place, just hope the board have more ambition and ideas for on the pitch than they have shown for some considerable time! We can only hope!

 

[Dabluez]

I still can't believe we hired him after he retired in the summer and stated he had no ambitions left in the game.

 

[Nymzee]

Shows how durge Martinez was.

 

[GrandOldParty]

"Everton have failed to have a shot on target in three of their last five league games. Before Allardyce was appointed, they had done the same three times in 222 league games."

No, don't reread that. You got it right the first time.

 

[Boss_Rarkley]

Going to be very difficult getting rid of him before his 18 month deal is over. Him, Walsh, Shakespeare and Sammy Lee you have a clique right there with some real influence in a kitchen with too many chefs.

 

[Yarrgh]

Going to be very difficult getting rid of him before his 18 month deal is over. Him, Walsh, Shakespeare and Sammy Lee you have a clique right there with some real influence in a kitchen with too many chefs.

Just hire an uber to sack them in and join the 21st century in both taxi and football terms.