Scottish football

[The Celtic View]

Scottish referees: Foreign officials idea is 'like trying to push water uphill'

Lack of viable options & finance, and a warped perspective on the worth of Scotland's referees, make the idea of foreign officials a soundbite and cop-out, says Tom English.

www.bbc.co.uk

This part interested me especially;

The inference was not lost on anybody. In documenting some supposed hardships that Celtic had been subjected to, Boyd seemed to be feeding a conspiracy about biased referees. The "neutral referees" had come in during the refs' strike of November 2010, he added, and "did ever so well".

On this and on a number of other things, Boyd is confused. On the weekend of the referees' strike in Scotland, Celtic hosted Inverness Caledonian Thistle. Alain Hamer from Luxembourg was in charge and disallowed a perfectly legitimate Celtic goal. The match ended 2-2 and Celtic went on to lose the league to Rangers by one point.

The funny thing was that the Celtic manager of the day, Neil Lennon, never made an issue of it. Neither did the Celtic support. Had it been a Scottish official who had erred, would they have remained so stoic? Hamer got a free pass in a way that a Scot may not have.

Iirc, that goal was a bawhair either way, and as the game wasn't a live game TV pictures didn't prove it, though I thought it may have been just offside.

While dropping those two points turned out to be very important at the end of the season, the difference is I believe it was a genuine decision, made by a referee who had no affection for either team.

I'm confident the ref wouldn't have allowed an ICT player to Jackie Chan the Celtic players, go to an ICT fans boozer and celebrate with the ICT fans after the game, then say there was no need for any retrospective action for the player who kicked, fondled, and stood on, his opponents.

In this day and age I can't believe anyone would accept a life long supporter of a club officiating at their games. At the very best, it's amateurish, and isn't seen to be fair. At worst, it's an opportunity for an official who supports a club to go the full McCurry, and make a series of bizarre decisions that favour that club, and ensure it get's the win it needed.

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

Iirc, that goal was a bawhair either way, and as the game wasn't a live game TV pictures didn't prove it, though I thought it may have been just offside.

While dropping those two points turned out to be very important at the end of the season, the difference is I believe it was a genuine decision, made by a referee who had no affection for either team.

I'm confident the ref wouldn't have allowed an ICT player to Jackie Chan the Celtic players, go to an ICT fans boozer and celebrate with the ICT fans after the game, then say there was no need for any retrospective action for the player who kicked, fondled, and stood on, his opponents.

In this day and age I can't believe anyone would accept a life long supporter of a club officiating at their games. At the very best, it's amateurish, and isn't seen to be fair. At worst, it's an opportunity for an official who supports a club to go the full McCurry, and make a series of bizarre decisions that favour that club, and ensure it get's the win it needed.

Bawhair;
An imperial measurement still used in Scotland .

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

Scottish referees: Foreign officials idea is 'like trying to push water uphill'

Lack of viable options & finance, and a warped perspective on the worth of Scotland's referees, make the idea of foreign officials a soundbite and cop-out, says Tom English.

www.bbc.co.uk

This part interested me especially;

The inference was not lost on anybody. In documenting some supposed hardships that Celtic had been subjected to, Boyd seemed to be feeding a conspiracy about biased referees. The "neutral referees" had come in during the refs' strike of November 2010, he added, and "did ever so well".

On this and on a number of other things, Boyd is confused. On the weekend of the referees' strike in Scotland, Celtic hosted Inverness Caledonian Thistle. Alain Hamer from Luxembourg was in charge and disallowed a perfectly legitimate Celtic goal. The match ended 2-2 and Celtic went on to lose the league to Rangers by one point.

The funny thing was that the Celtic manager of the day, Neil Lennon, never made an issue of it. Neither did the Celtic support. Had it been a Scottish official who had erred, would they have remained so stoic? Hamer got a free pass in a way that a Scot may not have.

Thats the whole idea.

 

[The Celtic View]

Bawhair;
An imperial measurement still used in Scotland .

Yes, though sometimes the response to a claim "It was only a bawhair out" is "You must have some size of baw hairs"

 

[MarkK1988]

Brenda has quit celtic for leicester, rumours of Lennon back at celtic

 

[tommytowne]

Brenda has quit celtic for leicester, rumours of Lennon back at celtic

Managerial roundabout on display again.
No Moyes to Scotland yet.

 

[davek]

I cant see Lennon getting that Celtic job again.

Moyes needs to finally recognise his level and step down to the SPL.

 

[gonetomorrow]

I'd think a lot of Celts would think Lennon a backward step. Moyesie might be a good move although I reckon they'll come up with a foreign name.

 

[Thomasc]

I cant see Lennon getting that Celtic job again.

Moyes needs to finally recognise his level and step down to the SPL.

Makes perfect sense, though Celtic do seem to like to go for a younger more intelligent coach these days it seems. They don’t always work out of course, but Moyes might be a bit too old school for them.

 

[Connor]

Lennon till the summer, Marco Rose for the Celts.

 

[Wat Tyler]

They should go for Clarke

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

Looking forward to seeing scott brown in the PL

 

[Harryflashman]

They should go for Clarke

I think he’s a really decent manager but a couple of things I wonder if he’s better at setting up a team on the counter attack than he would be with one that dominating the ball , he does seem a bit wed to that but if could be given the players he as and that he’s at Kilmarnock . Secondly and a bit sadly his response to the sectarian abuse he suffered , it obviously affected him and i’d Imagine it’s only a taste of what he’d get if he moved . I think it’s awful that it could be a consideration but I wonder if it’d go through the mind of those making the decision I also wonder would he want to put himself through it .

I think his results the last 12 months though probably him a very strong case to be high up on any short list .

 

[Toast]

Moyes actually broke Manchester United.
Would be a hell of a double if he managed to break Celtic as well.

 

[Walken]