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Scottish football

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Mikey_Fitzgerald said:
Russia are a traditionally respected international team, dating back to the likes of Yashin in the 60's

Back during the USSR days they often went into tournaments with a chance of doing well, and in fact played in a World Cup semi final at Goodison park no less in 1966

In fact, losing the chance to draw from the rest of the communist block has actively made them worse, which doesn't really support your point. They were demonstrably better when they had a bigger pool they could draw from
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No, I said why aren’t they a traditionally great footballing nation like the Netherlands whose population dwarfs theirs. I never said Russia aren’t traditionally respected or had never had a good team. Actually, they have a bigger population than France, Germany, Spain and Italy even after they separated from the USSR. So if it’s all about population, why have all these countries always been better than them? And back to the main point, why are Scotland crap?
 

mikeh72 said:
What does that even mean? You can’t just apply the population excuse for Scotland and no one else. Ok what about this one, why is the Netherlands such a historically great footballing nation but Russia isn’t?
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What do you mean, what does it mean? I thought it was obvious. Neither of those countries are what you would call football nations. Baseball would be considered bigger than football in both countries.

Obviously, population isn’t the sole issue when it comes to countries performing well, Uruguay with a population half the size of Scotland is a shining example of this, but to claim the amount of players a team has to choose from has no bearing on how well it performs is ludicrous.
 
The Celtic View said:
What do you mean, what does it mean? I thought it was obvious. Neither of those countries are what you would call football nations. Baseball would be considered bigger than football in both countries.

Obviously, population isn’t the sole issue when it comes to countries performing well, Uruguay with a population half the size of Scotland is a shining example of this, but to claim the amount of players a team has to choose from has no bearing on how well it performs is ludicrous.
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It has very little bearing on it to be honest, the number of examples reeled off in this thread alone is enough proof of that. What would your reasoning be for Wales and both Irish teams outperforming Scotland consistently for many years?
 

mikeh72 said:
It has very little bearing on it to be honest, the number of examples reeled off in this thread alone is enough proof of that. What would your reasoning be for Wales and both Irish teams outperforming Scotland consistently for many years?
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Scotland doesn’t have any world class players, but both those countries get more out of their players than Scotland do. The appointment of McLeish was bizarre. God knows what the SFA were thinking giving him the job, but it;s came back to bite them.
 

Scottish footballs biggest issue is that the SFA are useless and they just have an almost unavoidable penchant to bottle it against teams they should beat

They are quite similar to Everton in that regard

There's enough decent players there that they should be able to qualify for a 24 team tournament like the Euros

Organisation and mentality, thats the issue

Also the Old Firm hoovering up any promising young Scottish player only to stick them on a bench doesn't help either (See Gary Mackay-Steven)

I'm not even convinced McGinn would have played much if he'd gone to Celtic. They wanted to have him so Hibs couldn't
 

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