Scottish football

[NathDogg]

What? Going all out for ten in a row is classless? If not, what are you on about?

Ok chief. Sod all to do with the ginger blert wittering on about the 10 ina row. Take a look at the situation - They have just been gifted the title, on average shitty PPG, nothing was won by them, as technically they could have been caught, but him and his chairman are banging on how great they, its his greatest achievement in the game, whilst this pissing virus is hammering our nations?!? Are you funkin serious?!? I would have hoped they would have taken the title "gift" with a bit more class and dignity than the post the club put up earlier ( our 9 is your 9 shoite), and these classless interviews? Comprende now what I am saying bud, or do you need further explanation?

 

[Emlynsqueakyvoice]

Ok chief. Sod all to do with the ginger blert wittering on about the 10 ina row. Take a look at the situation - They have just been gifted the title, on average shitty PPG, nothing was won by them, as technically they could have been caught, but him and his chairman are banging on how great they, its his greatest achievement in the game, whilst this pissing virus is hammering our nations?!? Are you funkin serious?!? I would have hoped they would have taken the title "gift" with a bit more class and dignity than the post the club put up earlier ( our 9 is your 9 shoite), and these classless interviews? Comprende now what I am saying bud, or do you need further explanation?

Well, given that Celtic won it 8 times in a row and were over the hill and far away, I'd like you to explain further, 'bud'. Do you really think that the SPFL could have done anything else but award the Celts the title? Do you think that Celtic deserved it for their efforts? Or do you just hate Celtic?

 

[Barca Blue]

 

[BlueStevie35]

Ok chief. Sod all to do with the ginger blert wittering on about the 10 ina row. Take a look at the situation - They have just been gifted the title, on average shitty PPG, nothing was won by them, as technically they could have been caught, but him and his chairman are banging on how great they, its his greatest achievement in the game, whilst this pissing virus is hammering our nations?!? Are you funkin serious?!? I would have hoped they would have taken the title "gift" with a bit more class and dignity than the post the club put up earlier ( our 9 is your 9 shoite), and these classless interviews? Comprende now what I am saying bud, or do you need further explanation?

13 points clear, unbeaten second half of season while Rangers were imploding again, they were winning it on merit anyway. Given the carry on by the Zombie club over the last month, why the hell shouldn't Celtic be celebratory? Rangers were never bothered by what happened to Hearts, Hamilton, Dundee United or Inverness, they were only ever looking out for themselves trying to get prize money early and still demand the season continue then they go and rip up their pitch

 

[NathDogg]

Well, given that Celtic won it 8 times in a row and were over the hill and far away, I'd like you to explain further, 'bud'. Do you really think that the SPFL could have done anything else but award the Celts the title? Do you think that Celtic deserved it for their efforts? Or do you just hate Celtic?

No problem mate, happy to explain further.

Question 1 - yes, the spfl could have done a number of different things than "award" the title (good to see you admit it was gifted to Celtic, as nothing was technically won). Easiest and fairest option imo - Void the season - no champions, and more importantly, no promotions or relegation - split monies as they stand, since in actuality, the league hasn't finished!

Question 2 - I see where you going, and I accept that Celtic were top and clear when the league was suspended (but still catchable, however unlikely,with the amount of games remaining) but last time I checked, football was NOT a game/business, where titles, awards etc were given out and presented to teams or individuals for their "efforts", so the point you make is a moot one.

It's like me giving Dijbril sidibe the motm award for finding and wearing two sodding socks when coming on as a sub! Celtics efforts are irrelevant until they had won it fairly, and that is why I expected a little more class.

Q3 - Ive never hated Celtic mate, always and still prefer them to Rangers, as odd as that may sound to you, given your responses to my previous posts. The reaction to the gift of number 9 in a row from Celtic just seems out of place, and leaves a sour taste for me, given what we are alll currently going through - that is all.

 

[WA Toffee]

Congrats to Celtic for winning 8 and 3/4 league titles in a row.

 

[Emlynsqueakyvoice]

No problem mate, happy to explain further.

Question 1 - yes, the spfl could have done a number of different things than "award" the title (good to see you admit it was gifted to Celtic, as nothing was technically won). Easiest and fairest option imo - Void the season - no champions, and more importantly, no promotions or relegation - split monies as they stand, since in actuality, the league hasn't finished!

Question 2 - I see where you going, and I accept that Celtic were top and clear when the league was suspended (but still catchable, however unlikely,with the amount of games remaining) but last time I checked, football was NOT a game/business, where titles, awards etc were given out and presented to teams or individuals for their "efforts", so the point you make is a moot one.

It's like me giving Dijbril sidibe the motm award for finding and wearing two sodding socks when coming on as a sub! Celtics efforts are irrelevant until they had won it fairly, and that is why I expected a little more class.

Q3 - Ive never hated Celtic mate, always and still prefer them to Rangers, as odd as that may sound to you, given your responses to my previous posts. The reaction to the gift of number 9 in a row from Celtic just seems out of place, and leaves a sour taste for me, given what we are alll currently going through - that is all.

I don't recall using the word 'gifted' but no doubt you'll show me where I did. Celtic, like the other lot across the park down here, were simply the best from last August to now. Your proposal to make the season null and void, the 'easiest and fairest option(!)' fails to take into account things like who represents Scotland as champions in the Champions League? What other criteria could you use than to ask the team who were virtually certain to win it (I accept that 'virtually' is not 'actually') to play in it? In that scenario Celtic would be champions in name, so it is logical for the Scottish Premier clubs (including The Rangers) to vote as they did. Now, your point is moot. By the way, football is a business nowadays. It stopped being a game a long time ago. That's why the Premier League in England (who depend on TV for their money) are mo ing heaven and earth to get football back on. If you're looking for a sour taste, look at the English Prem.

Congratulations Celtic. Worthy champions.

 

[NathDogg]

I don't recall using the word 'gifted' but no doubt you'll show me where I did. Celtic, like the other lot across the park down here, were simply the best from last August to now. Your proposal to make the season null and void, the 'easiest and fairest option(!)' fails to take into account things like who represents Scotland as champions in the Champions League? What other criteria could you use than to ask the team who were virtually certain to win it (I accept that 'virtually' is not 'actually') to play in it? In that scenario Celtic would be champions in name, so it is logical for the Scottish Premier clubs (including The Rangers) to vote as they did. Now, your point is moot. By the way, football is a business nowadays. It stopped being a game a long time ago. That's why the Premier League in England (who depend on TV for their money) are mo ing heaven and earth to get football back on. If you're looking for a sour taste, look at the English Prem.

Congratulations Celtic. Worthy champions.

Splitting hairs now, but You agree you said that Celtic were awarded the title - synonyms for awarded or award include gave,GIFT,given,bestowed,presented,granted,endowed etc etc - they have been awarded/gifted the title, via vote using average PPG, nothing has been technically won in an actual footballing sense - do you agree?

I have not mentioned European qualification, but if you null and void, as the Dutch league have, then the team who were top of the league when suspended, would go into the top competition, and I have absolutely no issue with that team being Celtic.

Not once have I said that Celtic did not deserve to win the league, and would they have won it - highly likely on form etc, but it hasn't been decided on the pitch, PPG has won the league, so any victory, celebrations and sporting integrity, are tainted.

The main problem I have with PPG is relegation -I hear Hearts are suing the spfl and I would expect Everton or any club to do so should they be in the same situation - integrity is ruined again in this case, and so I would have thought that Celtics celebrations would have been more subdued/refrained.

I also completely agree with you on the English league, and the clamour to resume is in very poor taste. I disagree with any notion of a return in the sham that is being proposed, with fundamental rule changes being implemented midway through the competition - it is all about money, nothing more, and again the notion of sporting integrity is completely trampled on.

My whole point was on the classless nature of Celtics celebrations, and interviews that there management team have given on the win (Lennon's career highlight is being awarded/gifted a title - really?!) considering the current pandemic, and the way in which they have "won" the competition.

Congratulations Celtic - worthy "and classless" winners - fixed that for you.

 

[Emlynsqueakyvoice]

Splitting hairs now, but You agree you said that Celtic were awarded the title - synonyms for awarded or award include gave,GIFT,given,bestowed,presented,granted,endowed etc etc - they have been awarded/gifted the title, via vote using average PPG, nothing has been technically won in an actual footballing sense - do you agree?

I have not mentioned European qualification, but if you null and void, as the Dutch league have, then the team who were top of the league when suspended, would go into the top competition, and I have absolutely no issue with that team being Celtic.

Not once have I said that Celtic did not deserve to win the league, and would they have won it - highly likely on form etc, but it hasn't been decided on the pitch, PPG has won the league, so any victory, celebrations and sporting integrity, are tainted.

The main problem I have with PPG is relegation -I hear Hearts are suing the spfl and I would expect Everton or any club to do so should they be in the same situation - integrity is ruined again in this case, and so I would have thought that Celtics celebrations would have been more subdued/refrained.

I also completely agree with you on the English league, and the clamour to resume is in very poor taste. I disagree with any notion of a return in the sham that is being proposed, with fundamental rule changes being implemented midway through the competition - it is all about money, nothing more, and again the notion of sporting integrity is completely trampled on.

My whole point was on the classless nature of Celtics celebrations, and interviews that there management team have given on the win (Lennon's career highlight is being awarded/gifted a title - really?!) considering the current pandemic, and the way in which they have "won" the competition.

Congratulations Celtic - worthy "and classless" winners - fixed that for you.

Regarding your first point, I said that Celtic had already virtually won the league as opposed to actually, so I assume that by you repeating what I said, we are in agreement.
Looking through the rest of your post, and ignoring the 'classless' thing (Celtic have the right celebrate howsoever they choose), your issue appears to be with the relegation of Hearts. I believe that their Chair (who doesn't seem to differentiate between advance payments and loans) is trying to find a way to re-configure so that Hearts don't have to resort to legal action. I agree with you on that, that they should be given no penalty of relegation at this stage at the season. I would extend the SPFL by one team and increase the teams that go down by one next season.

 

[Cork Evertonian]

Hope Corky is alright

Football is the least of my worries right now.But while most of us would agree, that there should be no title for the rs, likewise there should have been no title for Celtic either.

 

[Cork Evertonian]

Hearts being relegated, that isn't right either.A decision was made to end the season, therefore there should have been no relegations, and no title wins either.If Celtic were deemed champions, before the season was put on hold, then fine award them the title, but they weren't.The SFA really have made a proper dogs dinner out of this.

 

[Connor]

Football is the least of my worries right now.But while most of us would agree, that there should be no title for the rs, likewise there should have been no title for Celtic either.

 

[Cork Evertonian]

Im sorry i don't understand.

 

[Shevin Keedy]

I don't recall using the word 'gifted' but no doubt you'll show me where I did. Celtic, like the other lot across the park down here, were simply the best from last August to now.

The other lot down here were the best up until March, not "to now". We do not know who would have been best to now as football got suspended.

I admittedly do not know about the scottish league, I did not realise there still was one to be fair.

 

[Emlynsqueakyvoice]

The other lot down here were the best up until March, not "to now". We do not know who would have been best to now as football got suspended.

I admittedly do not know about the scottish league, I did not realise there still was one to be fair.

They, the RS, were top until March, and are top now. We will never know if Celtic or the RS would have lost all or most of their remaining games during the normal course of the season but although money will, commonsense should just prevail. Man City may have caught Liverpool by making up 25 points on them in their remaining 10 games. Liverpool should just be given the league, but they won't be. Contracts must be fulfilled and all that. The Rangers would need far more than 8 games to make up 13 points on Celtic, and in the given circumstances the SPFL did the right thing in my opinion.