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Seamus Coleman

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United, Chelsea, West Ham... Every other team except City, Spurs, Arsenal and probably Liverpool.

I'm going with the first example...Fosu Mensah is going to be an amazing player and (like Holgate) seems to be enormously underrated by the management.

Fosu Mensah would walk in a team ahead of Cleverley if it was based on form every day of the week.
 
I'm going with the first example...Fosu Mensah is going to be an amazing player and (like Holgate) seems to be enormously underrated by the management.

Fosu Mensah would walk in a team ahead of Cleverley if it was based on form every day of the week.

Since when does Cleverley play at full-back?

And if you meant Coleman then no, he wouldn't at all.
 

Coleman looks fantastic at times but he also looks like a massive retard a lot of the time. Unless Coleman is on fine form going forward, I'd have Holgate RB
 
Or Thierry Henry

Well, Henry started as an out-and-out winger mate... He was never really a central striker. He always drifted wherever he wanted.

More often than not, shoehorning young players isn't the answer.

In this case, it seems Holgate is certainly capable of providing good back-up at full-back as well as centre half. But Coleman is better. And his poor form is been exaggerated in any case - he's looked fine since he's come back.
 
If you want a player to succeed in a certain position, you play them as much as possible in that position rather than using them in a role that isn't going to be for them long-term.

If not, you end up with Tom Cleverley syndrome...


You play the best team mate... doesn't matter about the individual player.... holgate was playing well and playing there is better than him sitting on the bench.. also cb often get blooded at full back. Coleman was blooded at rm. the fact holgate was improving and actually got a mom in his last game IMO means he shouldn't have lost his place. We were winning, blooding a youngster, giving him confidence and he was actually improving ... so IMO should have been picked again
 

You play the best team mate... doesn't matter about the individual player.... holgate was playing well and playing there is better than him sitting on the bench.. also cb often get blooded at full back. Coleman was blooded at rm. the fact holgate was improving and actually got a mom in his last game IMO means he shouldn't have lost his place. We were winning, blooding a youngster, giving him confidence and he was actually improving ... so IMO should have been picked again

But there's also an argument you pick your strongest team and Coleman is part of that...

He was fit. He's first-choice. You don't lose your place in the side through injury IMO.

It's not like he came back in and we lost or played badly either - he had a great game vs Sunderland and a good game vs Boro.

Holgate was caught out quite a bit vs Norwich if you remember correctly as well.

It's null and void - Coleman's first choice and he isn't in poor form at all. So unless he's injured or his form completely drops off, he isn't being dropped, and rightly so.
 
If used in relation to golf you are correct. However the general usage doesn't derive from golf.

So while par approximates to the expected level or average, being below par in golf is a good thing but that doesn't hold true in most other areas.


Correct - the original use of the word "par" was to describe average.

Golf took it and applied it to mean what was expected in terms of number of shots to complete a hole or round.

Below par. when applied to its original meaning, therefore means below average, or not up to the expected level.
 
But there's also an argument you pick your strongest team and Coleman is part of that...

He was fit. He's first-choice. You don't lose your place in the side through injury IMO.

It's not like he came back in and we lost or played badly either - he had a great game vs Sunderland and a good game vs Boro.

Holgate was caught out quite a bit vs Norwich if you remember correctly as well.

It's null and void - Coleman's first choice and he isn't in poor form at all. So unless he's injured or his form completely drops off, he isn't being dropped, and rightly so.
Yes you do, imo, but not always (see below).

You get injured and, if it's a long-term injury, likelihood is you'll return not match fit or ready to slot into a side on form.

Why, then, would you be put straight back in and risk the team suffering as a result of your, unfortunate, lack of match fitness?

Injury is a reserve/young player's route into the first team, fortunate for them, and on the other hand a first team player's (unfortunate) route onto the bench until the lucky player who profited from your injury loses form or gets injured.

That said, it obviously must differ from player to play, like Lukaku goes back in no matter what as we've nobody else. Seamus though, he hasn't exactly been setting the pitch on fire the past two years, so he shouldn't have come straight back in imo.
 
But there's also an argument you pick your strongest team and Coleman is part of that...

He was fit. He's first-choice. You don't lose your place in the side through injury IMO.

It's not like he came back in and we lost or played badly either - he had a great game vs Sunderland and a good game vs Boro.

Holgate was caught out quite a bit vs Norwich if you remember correctly as well.

It's null and void - Coleman's first choice and he isn't in poor form at all. So unless he's injured or his form completely drops off, he isn't being dropped, and rightly so.

We will have to agree to disagree I think... I believe if you are given a chance and you take it... you stay in until you lose your place and the next person takes their chance
 

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