He did great the Derby Ha me at. home etc -This season disaster plus woeful football Southampton away deserved a sacking!
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Furey1878
Player Valuation: £70m
Huge respect from me. Keeping us up after Lampard was a miracle, last season with the deductions and pretty much being the only fella facing up to everything caused by the circus upstairs.
That said,he was deservedly sacked this season.
I think both things can be true, all his good work isn't completely undone in my eyes..
That said,he was deservedly sacked this season.
I think both things can be true, all his good work isn't completely undone in my eyes..
Paul Rideout
Player Valuation: £40m
I appreciate he kept us up last season.
I appreciate he was doing a terrible job this season.
I appreciate the club for getting him gone.
I appreciate he was doing a terrible job this season.
I appreciate the club for getting him gone.
bluenose10
Player Valuation: £25k
But for how he went about his work before this season we'd have been visiting Oxford, Derby and Portsmouth this season. Respect but right call.
Blackwell Livermore
Player Valuation: £8m
This
Can’t say I have any appreciation for him. He kept us up in some historically bad leagues. Look how many points the teams that went down last year got. Look at how Luton are doing this season to see what he was up against.
He took us on our worst run even last year despite the league having some poor teams in. No one can tell me that he had any clue how to end that run without that absolute fluke goal by DCL against Burnley
Even the first year if you take out the 2 wins from first 3 games which may well have been a new manager bounce then the points total per game was awful after that. A competent manager does not need until the last game of that season to keep us up
Thought he would at least be a straight talker but he chatted more rubbish than Martinez in the interests of self preservation
He took us on our worst run even last year despite the league having some poor teams in. No one can tell me that he had any clue how to end that run without that absolute fluke goal by DCL against Burnley
Even the first year if you take out the 2 wins from first 3 games which may well have been a new manager bounce then the points total per game was awful after that. A competent manager does not need until the last game of that season to keep us up
Thought he would at least be a straight talker but he chatted more rubbish than Martinez in the interests of self preservation
Noble Savage
Player Valuation: £20m
As others have said, I appreciate him for what he did last season and the tail end of the previous one but he just run out of ideas and more than likely lost the dressing room.
I can't imagine any modern footballer wanting to play like he set the team up every game. I understand it needed to be done against the top 6 but not against every team. When he actually tried to play attacking football, it just didn't work.
He obviously needed at least one new coach and drilled the team into playing different styles. Forest's manager is very good at that. He couldn't adapt and be proactive. He leaned on what he knew worked and when other teams compensated, he didn't know how to react.
File Dyche in the Big Sam folder. History will be kinder to him than Frank.
Hopefully he gets a job soon or better still a pundit job. He'll be ace on Homes under the Hammer.
I can't imagine any modern footballer wanting to play like he set the team up every game. I understand it needed to be done against the top 6 but not against every team. When he actually tried to play attacking football, it just didn't work.
He obviously needed at least one new coach and drilled the team into playing different styles. Forest's manager is very good at that. He couldn't adapt and be proactive. He leaned on what he knew worked and when other teams compensated, he didn't know how to react.
File Dyche in the Big Sam folder. History will be kinder to him than Frank.
Hopefully he gets a job soon or better still a pundit job. He'll be ace on Homes under the Hammer.
hallamblue
Player Valuation: £40m
Not many clubs would hire him because of his dire style of football. If he wants to work again it will have to be somewhere like Preston or Stoke.
overkill
Player Valuation: £20m
No just McNeil, Garner is neither here nor there.
Majority of our goals come from McNeil because he's the only player who can take a good free kick/corner.
With Dyche being as limited as he was he couldn't find another way to score goals, so the goals dried up
Came in to a powder puff team and a boardroom that was a chaotic Clownshow.
Throughout his time here, he was left hung out to dry by those upstairs. And had to go it alone and be the frontman for all of the extraordinary, unjust and unheard of events that were taking place. Dealt with it admirably. Respect and thanks.
Teamwise. After lampard - he gave us back a degree of identity. Effort, fight and team spirit. Kept us up twice. Must be respected.
This season. Started or tried to go a new way. Got bitten. Twice shy. Bournemouth and villa. Reverted to type. I guess wanted points on the board and perhaps would've then tried again with more open football. Who knows.
The ire he's received lately (since Xmas especially) i find a little unjust - results wise. Our expectations before our "fixtures of hell" were minimal. Many expecting we'd be in the relegation places. Didn't happen. In isolation, fans happy with the results. But, when looked at as a group, suddenly crap. Fans complaining. A lot retrospectively. City are cack should've beaten them etc. forest and Bournemouth granted, we were terrible and toothless. Dyche again seeking safety in what he knows. Right or wrong.
Media comments.... Oh dear. Here's where the wheels fell off.
10 years experience. Problems there before. Hardest job ever. Change the narrative. Balance between defence and attack. Sniffing chances. Personnel. Rinse and repeat.
All of these points, especially with 10 years experience, are the nuts and bolts of being a manager. That's the job. Indirectly, he was saying he wasn't doing it.
The asylum gained traction. He's gone.
Must admit, i was weary of getting rid now. As I still thought he'd have kept us up, which is, and was, the priority this season. People seem to forget, 2 months ago we had no ownership.
He's gone.
I'm happy to see someone "new" ... whether it's nostalgia or not. Moyes gives me a degree of comfort in the change. I'm happy he's back. Much happier than when first mooted before Carlo came. Moyes showed again with West ham in the interim what he's capable of. This, at the moment is exactly what we need.
Far moreso, than Fonseca or other unknown quantities. Our predicament is too delicate to throw the dice. We've had enough sea changes recently. We're not at the stage for a Martinez, Silva or potter.
Moyes is a perfect transition from a dyche team and "tactics". Also, experienced in doing it all himself. Where we end up, we'll see. But if he does what he did in the first 11 years we'll be fine.
Thanks Sean for giving us the chance to continue to hope. But with you, in the long-term at least we are / were hopeless.
Throughout his time here, he was left hung out to dry by those upstairs. And had to go it alone and be the frontman for all of the extraordinary, unjust and unheard of events that were taking place. Dealt with it admirably. Respect and thanks.
Teamwise. After lampard - he gave us back a degree of identity. Effort, fight and team spirit. Kept us up twice. Must be respected.
This season. Started or tried to go a new way. Got bitten. Twice shy. Bournemouth and villa. Reverted to type. I guess wanted points on the board and perhaps would've then tried again with more open football. Who knows.
The ire he's received lately (since Xmas especially) i find a little unjust - results wise. Our expectations before our "fixtures of hell" were minimal. Many expecting we'd be in the relegation places. Didn't happen. In isolation, fans happy with the results. But, when looked at as a group, suddenly crap. Fans complaining. A lot retrospectively. City are cack should've beaten them etc. forest and Bournemouth granted, we were terrible and toothless. Dyche again seeking safety in what he knows. Right or wrong.
Media comments.... Oh dear. Here's where the wheels fell off.
10 years experience. Problems there before. Hardest job ever. Change the narrative. Balance between defence and attack. Sniffing chances. Personnel. Rinse and repeat.
All of these points, especially with 10 years experience, are the nuts and bolts of being a manager. That's the job. Indirectly, he was saying he wasn't doing it.
The asylum gained traction. He's gone.
Must admit, i was weary of getting rid now. As I still thought he'd have kept us up, which is, and was, the priority this season. People seem to forget, 2 months ago we had no ownership.
He's gone.
I'm happy to see someone "new" ... whether it's nostalgia or not. Moyes gives me a degree of comfort in the change. I'm happy he's back. Much happier than when first mooted before Carlo came. Moyes showed again with West ham in the interim what he's capable of. This, at the moment is exactly what we need.
Far moreso, than Fonseca or other unknown quantities. Our predicament is too delicate to throw the dice. We've had enough sea changes recently. We're not at the stage for a Martinez, Silva or potter.
Moyes is a perfect transition from a dyche team and "tactics". Also, experienced in doing it all himself. Where we end up, we'll see. But if he does what he did in the first 11 years we'll be fine.
Thanks Sean for giving us the chance to continue to hope. But with you, in the long-term at least we are / were hopeless.
Markydys
Player Valuation: £1m
He was brilliant last season getting a tune out of our players last season to beat relegation even with an 8 point drop. That said, because of the 8 point deduction, any 3 points were massive and it wasn't an issue how we got them. A few really poor performances last season (home to Brentford and Sheffield United at the end of the season) were overlooked as we got three more points to move us up the league and add to the narrative of how well he had done.
This season though is a different story. The Bournemouth home game was unforgivable. The Bournemouth away game was the worst game I've watched in years which is saying something. This season it's been flat, awful to watch and his mannerism and demeanour in press conferences just irritates me. He comes across as arrogant and narcissistic and not fully buying into our club.
This season though is a different story. The Bournemouth home game was unforgivable. The Bournemouth away game was the worst game I've watched in years which is saying something. This season it's been flat, awful to watch and his mannerism and demeanour in press conferences just irritates me. He comes across as arrogant and narcissistic and not fully buying into our club.
kenada_blue
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Still have to finish the job though regardless of how rubbish other teams were. And without the points deduction....it's a point less than Carlos first season with more issues and less money spent.
kenada_blue
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Not saying that's not the case.
But he was manager for longer than the last 5 months. I'm just not having the job he did the last 2 seasons be dismissed as "any one could've done it".
NorthernBlue
Player Valuation: £30m
Last season is going to be one of them where everyone tells us how lucky we were to have him. It’ll be nauseating. The facts are anyone could have kept us up last season. Taking the deductions into account 34 points would have kept us up. Any manager delivering a 34 point season would be considered a complete failure. And rightly so regardless of the circumstances.
For me he only gets praise for the Lampard season and even then he took it too close to the bone. Last season he did a bog standard job in the poorest set of teams in the prem leagues history. This season speaks for itself.
Shocking manager and chuffed he has gone. And if reports are true I’m glad the new owners saw through him.
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