2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[GrandOldTeam]

Do you genuinely believe this?

Wherever Dyche ‘improved’ us he made us worse in other areas. He’s such a limited manager

Agreed last season with all the points drama etc going on we did well to stay up but I even think we made hard work of that.

I think we are relegation fodder this season because of his mentality, nothing else. Yes some of our players are good enough, DCL, Mykolenko, Harrison etc but Dyches mentality is terrible.

We had a decent Summer in terms of recruitment, we should have pushed on but the disastrous first 10 games are all down to his inability to adapt.

The Bournemouth loss was unforgivable.

I’m really not sure where he has improved u tbh,

Do I genuinely believe what?

That he did a brilliant job to keep us up, when he arrived going into Feb with us in 19th?

Or that he did a brilliant job to keep us up last season with the point deductions, especially after 2 successive seasons we went to the final home game?

I think we are relegation fodder this season because of his mentality, nothing else.

See, I fundamentally disagree with this.

Too many are putting all Everton's difficulties on the manager, when he's very much a symptom.

I shared my view we were relegation fodder before the season started with Lampard, and we've only stripped the team since. We're the only team in the league to not have invested in any window for 3/4 years now. So yes, I believe we are relegation fodder - I've shared that view for 4 years now.

 

[blue to the bone]

His number one allie her has yet to appear to defend him ?
Is on a new years break or just no he's defending the undefendable now

 

[brucemate]

Do you genuinely believe this?

Wherever Dyche ‘improved’ us he made us worse in other areas. He’s such a limited manager

Agreed last season with all the points drama etc going on we did well to stay up but I even think we made hard work of that.

I think we are relegation fodder this season because of his mentality, nothing else. Yes some of our players are good enough, DCL, Mykolenko, Harrison etc but Dyches mentality is terrible.

We had a decent Summer in terms of recruitment, we should have pushed on but the disastrous first 10 games are all down to his inability to adapt.

The Bournemouth loss was unforgivable.

I’m really not sure where he has improved u tbh,

Those who seem to support Dyche always mention his lack of cash for players. Given his overall results as a manager throughout, even if he had money, I fear he would sign 5 Jack Harrisons.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

None. Maybe Palace. Dyche won't get a prem job. Howe if he left Newcastle would go to West Ham maybe. Potter is AWOL.

That's not because he's or they are not good at his job but more down to style and brand of football rather than results.

Firstly...fans in the prem do not like British managers as they're seen as regressive. Even the two most progressive like Howe and Potter would be in a scrap with someone like Will Still or some German 2nd division winner if given the choice. It's just how football has become now IMO.

Fans are more open to a foreign manager. People are lying if that wasn't true.

That's why I don't understand why you don't think Moyes would crawl to Everton.

He's not getting a bigger job, or potentially any job in the Prem.

 

[NorthernBlue]

Do you genuinely believe this?

Wherever Dyche ‘improved’ us he made us worse in other areas. He’s such a limited manager

Agreed last season with all the points drama etc going on we did well to stay up but I even think we made hard work of that.

I think we are relegation fodder this season because of his mentality, nothing else. Yes some of our players are good enough, DCL, Mykolenko, Harrison etc but Dyches mentality is terrible.

We had a decent Summer in terms of recruitment, we should have pushed on but the disastrous first 10 games are all down to his inability to adapt.

The Bournemouth loss was unforgivable.

I’m really not sure where he has improved u tbh,

26 points kept you up last season. In our case 34 points. That’s how easy it was. He deserves credit for keeping us up after Lampard but that’s it. Deserves nothing for this season which has been a shambles.

 

[Simon Buttle]

Those who seem to support Dyche always mention his lack of cash for players. Given his overall results as a manager throughout, even if he had money, I fear he would sign 5 Jack Harrisons.

If the reports are true then his choice of player signings would have been more Phillips and McTomminay types ie players we could never have afforded and who would have just pushed our wage bill right back up again.

 

[Taifi gorm]

no one should defend this.

 

[twoblue]

Not for me, he improved us and got us to a situation we all would have took when he come in - to have it in our hands final day of the season.

He also did a great job last season.

This season the wheels have come off, but the recruitment from prior to Dyche causing inability to spend is what has let Everton down big time.

You can't take relegation fodder, strip it/make money every window and realistically expect it to kick on.

No matter the manager, we need to be making signings from tomorrow.

This is the thing. Hands up I don’t go to goodison regularly. Work also permits that I watch a lot of football around the country at different grounds. So my opinion is less emotional. I appreciate the match going fan has walked to the ground, spent money and is served up some pretty dour match experience.
I don’t enjoy the games when I go a lot of the time.

My take is that Dyche has done a good job.
He was bought in to get to this point.

If at the start of the appointment you had had said would take the positions we are in now given:
We were looking dead in the water when he came in.
We are a premier league team which has made profits in the transfer market, cut salary’s and had a season where we faced points deduction.

Everyone of us would have said yes that a good job.

But watching him achieve this hasn’t been exciting. Which taints the overall perspective of what’s been done for the actual long term of the club.

New owners new rules now.

 

[Simon Buttle]

That's why I don't understand why you don't think Moyes would crawl to Everton.

He's not getting a bigger job, or potentially any job in the Prem.

I tend to agree with you tbh and I find those BBC comments about him not wanting another relegation club a bit strange really. If you believe various reports then other than a few international jobs there has been little club interest in him from anywhere since he left West Ham. I don't especially want him here myself and really think we need a new direction but if offered it Id be astonished if he didn't accept.

 

[twoblue]

If you were a player, would you want to play in a Dyche team?

I’d be dead on gaffers days

 

[IrishBlue2022]

We're in a different period now. Kenwright instigated that

Your point was about whether Moyes would come back, not whether he would be offered the role or not.

 

[Big Sams Undies]

no one should defend this.

Utterly disgraceful that.

More than half of the months of the football calendar without a win and only one month with more than one win.

Anyone defending that is an utter loser and deserves the club we’ve currently got.

 

[jaycee]

I like how when some of you get really upset about this soccer thing you go all Karen and use terms like utterly ridiculous and absolute disgrace. Tickles me.

Anyway carry on lads.

I'm flabbergasted that you make such accusations

 

[chicoazul]

I'm flabbergasted that you make such accusations

I do them out of love.

 

[jamieni]

This is the thing. Hands up I don’t go to goodison regularly. Work also permits that I watch a lot of football around the country at different grounds. So my opinion is less emotional. I appreciate the match going fan has walked to the ground, spent money and is served up some pretty dour match experience.
I don’t enjoy the games when I go a lot of the time.

My take is that Dyche has done a good job.
He was bought in to get to this point.

If at the start of the appointment you had had said would take the positions we are in now given:
We were looking dead in the water when he came in.
We are a premier league team which has made profits in the transfer market, cut salary’s and had a season where we faced points deduction.

Everyone of us would have said yes that a good job.

But watching him achieve this hasn’t been exciting. Which taints the overall perspective of what’s been done for the actual long term of the club.

New owners new rules now.

Hands down he did the job last season. It just looks like we’re floundering a bit this season and the credit he has in the bank is diminished.

I’d be surprised if he was sacked this week but if we get tanked by Bournemouth I don’t know where we go from there. But it’s back him or sack him really.