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2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

If you want to be miserable every day of your life then that’s a fine way to live I guess

You can live in a panacea and never have reality match unrealistic expectations, or you can accept reality and make the best of it

We’re a mid-table team at best right now due to a litany of reasons that we can’t do anything about until Moshiri pushes off

That doesn’t give Dyche a get out of jail card, but it does mean that a 12th placed finish isn’t grounds to hang him in the city centre either
We’re not a relegation team though, which is what people are trying to convince everyone else we are
 
My take has always been the welfare of the football club, there has been the biggest existential threat as far as I’m concerned in our history the last three seasons. Nothing else matters, bar the wellbeing of the club. Dyche has done an incredible job over a season and a half. The fact people now are hoping for and expecting, shows the progression.

Away from the above slightly, we need stability. That has been a huge problem at the club, a constant cycle, of building, upon, building on players that one of the 7 managers that was here for less or slightly more then a year decided they wanted with varying philosophies and skill sets, burning through wages and resources. Dyche has brought that stability.

Additionally the clubs identity was in the toilet, in a way it still is, but he’s managed a manure of a situation with dignity and hold respect of the footballing world because of it, that’s helped the club recover some of the PR manure show.

What he did with little, was incredible and when he does leave here he will be remembered warmly by Evertonians for the job he did, for that I’m certain. Doing what he did with the context he walked into, with the tools he was given, is outstanding.

Lastly I believe managers and clubs need something that isn’t easily given in the game time and faith - if you make a decision you back it, you give a manger a contract, let them do what they do and as that contract comes up for renewal you review - that what the club needed and that what’s going to go down, I’m delighted about that.

Is there a red line? Of course, that’s the industry - for me it’s where Lampard got to, heading South, after half a season, about to be cut off.

I’m full sure thst won’t happen, I’m not even the slightest bit concerned about relegation - unless there is another points deduction.

We’re developing a good competitive side, who as I’ve said - I expect to be 10th-12th.
Mate, come on. He's done a solid job, no questions. But incredible?? Really 🤣
 
Mate, come on. He's done a solid job, no questions. But incredible?? Really 🤣

My opinion, an incredible job mate!

That description is equal to the level of jeopardy and risk that had to be overcome and achieved and what that means in real terms for the future and wellbeing of the football club for years to come.

Really thought we were goosed, year 1.

Year 2, thought we were semi goosed, but knew he was made of the right stuff, that gave us a chance and so it proved.

This year I’m going to kick back and enjoy, unless the PL has different ideas and Moshiri leaves us a parting PSR gift.
 

Just watched Ashley Young earlier as a pitch side pundit for Villa v Bayern in the Champions League. He was effusive in his praise of Emery, how when he took Villa over he wouldn’t accept anything less than Europe and how much he wants to win a trophy. Villa were below us when he took over and we were still saddled with Lampard getting hoofed by Bournemouth before eventually sacking him and scouring the bargain bin for Sean Dyche. Just really brought home the absolute drop in standards and acceptance of mediocrity at this club under Kenwright and Moshiri. We’re happy that Sean “gaffer’s day” Dyche might just keep us up whilst Villa are beating Bayern Munich. Roll on the new owners…
 
Mate, come on. He's done a solid job, no questions. But incredible?? Really 🤣
It's so binary on here it genuinely makes me laugh out loud. Words like amazing, incredible, disgusting, abysmal all thrown around daily.
For mine, in the off field circumstances and the players available, he's done a very good job, but might be approaching his shelf life.
 
My opinion, an incredible job mate!

That description is equal to the level of jeopardy and risk that had to be overcome and achieved and what that means in real terms for the future and wellbeing of the football club for years to come.

Really thought we were goosed, year 1.

Year 2, thought we were semi goosed, but knew he was made of the right stuff, that gave us a chance and so it proved.

This year I’m going to kick back and enjoy, unless the PL has different ideas and Moshiri leaves us a parting PSR gift.

Last year I still think we were saved by the bottom 4 bring so appallingly bad that no real pressure ever got placed upon us.

It was a weird season for sure.

But on the back of I think 13 games without a win, we beat Burnley luckily - then got absolutely torn apart by Chelsea 6-0, we then got in all honesty gifted a win v Forest we should have lost deservedly that day.

We lose the forest game I dunno if the subsequent results happen.

We had a stronger league I dunno if we survive
 
Last year I still think we were saved by the bottom 4 bring so appallingly bad that no real pressure ever got placed upon us.

It was a weird season for sure.

But on the back of I think 13 games without a win, we beat Burnley luckily - then got absolutely torn apart by Chelsea 6-0, we then got in all honesty gifted a win v Forest we should have lost deservedly that day.

We lose the forest game I dunno if the subsequent results happen.

We had a stronger league I dunno if we survive

I think we had no of relegation last season if it wasn’t for the points deduction - which is objectively true and not opinion - so the progress on the year before is evident.

The points deduction and perhaps more so the uncertainty I think we can all accept changed the dynamic and let’s be frank it impacted. Think he did a terrific holistic job man ageing through that - but also represented the club and institution with amazing dignity, when others went missing and he fronted it every week on behalf of the club. Really terrific stuff.

I think much is made of the 13 game run, I’d highlight a few things, we didn’t loose every game - we picked up what were valuable points against very good teams during that run (we also won in the cup). The losses we picked up during that period - we’re in the toughest run of fixtures of any team in the league and for most teams are expected losses. Lastly the club handed the manager a limited squad - the squad was flogged all the way through Dec and the Xmas programme, because live squad options weren’t there, it was compounded by injury, AFCON and suspension. If you really look at it was really after the infamous training camp in Portugal and the players rs got a rest - that we began to win games again.

It’s partly the reason I’m so bullish about this season, I think we have made a big improvement on depth - by that I mean live squad playing options.
 

Some of you lot talk a lot a crap. The manager is 💩 there is extremely low bar very low expectations look at their comments Dyche satisfied with a job well done, Thelwell satisfied with Dyche. Bottom feeders that's what they are. When we get TFG they need to obliterate this mentality.

Just look at Villa a team that has been relegated and bounced back to end up in the CL beating Bayern Munich at home with a very competent manager.

Take an effin look at yourselves.

Everton aren't we?

Certainly your Everton is not my Everton.
 
Some of you lot talk a lot a crap. The manager is 💩 there is extremely low bar very low expectations look at their comments Dyche satisfied with a job well done, Thelwell satisfied with Dyche. Bottom feeders that's what they are. When we get TFG they need to obliterate this mentality.

Just look at Villa a team that has been relegated and bounced back to end up in the CL beating Bayern Munich at home with a very competent manager.

Take an effin look at yourselves.

Everton aren't we?

Certainly your Everton is not my Everton.

What’s Villas current situation got to do with ours?

They are currently doing well as they spent money on a top manager and have bought well with decent money also

They were on their arses in the championship and looked in trouble

When they were in that moment they didn’t have the money to do what they are doing now

They got bought and then came good things

We are currently in the part where we are on our arses with no money. What mentality are you looking for?

While we are in this situation, until we get sorted off the pitch, what is wrong with a “just survive in the league” attitude?
 
Oh good, we’re lowering our standards even further

Kenwright really has done a number on our fanbase

It's a vicious circle. A self fulfilling prophecy.

That article from that Barney Rubble fella. "Journalists" pumping 💩 that people outside the club and some of our own fans think "that's right yeah".

Instead of demanding the best, that Everton are returned to the top echelons. That we have better ambitions than just safety. This Dyche era has overrun, he's outstayed his welcome. Instead of have a manager that can take this squad and Everton on from being "saved" from relegation we have a manager that gets a nose bleed when we win never mind hit mid table. That's not just on him. It's on the club. Thelwell. And every other hanger on that perpetuates this very very low
bar and almost unimportant, small-time, inconsequential existence of Everton Football Club.

Be gone.
 
What’s Villas current situation got to do with ours?

They are currently doing well as they spent money on a top manager and have bought well with decent money also

They were on their arses in the championship and looked in trouble

When they were in that moment they didn’t have the money to do what they are doing now

They got bought and then came good things

We are currently in the part where we are on our arses with no money. What mentality are you looking for?

While we are in this situation, until we get sorted off the pitch, what is wrong with a “just survive in the league” attitude?

I rest my case.
 

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