2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[HalfTimeSayers]

Be a bit weird trying to attract players in Jan with a manager 5 months from walking away. Also strange to let a manager with a few months left on his contract have any say in purchases/sales.

If he’s going, he’ll have to go pre-Xmas. If he’s not getting sacked, he’ll get a contract extension. Surely won’t see TFG’s first (and important) window then just walk away.

Worrying.

 

[bicycleheader]

I rest my case.

I don’t think you have a case

Make your case, answer my post

Simply demanding “the best” doesn’t mean anything. It’s just talk. Reality is we are a calamitous organization right now, who are you even demanding “the best” from? Moshiri isn’t listening ya know Eeyore

Now maybe the new owners actually come in, and start to bring stability and we move forward. Then yeah, let’s all look for the club to have some standards, do things right and aim big (but without reaching too far too soon).

 

[Dymak]

Be a bit weird trying to attract players in Jan with a manager 5 months from walking away. Also strange to let a manager with a few months left on his contract have any say in purchases/sales.

If he’s going, he’ll have to go pre-Xmas. If he’s not getting sacked, he’ll get a contract extension. Surely won’t see TFG’s first (and important) window then just walk away.

Worrying.

Dyche will not be getting a contract extension under any circumstances. Well, unless we get relegated and people think he is the best man to get us out of the championship. He is otherwise getting the boot by the end of this season at the very latest.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

It's a vicious circle. A self fulfilling prophecy.

That article from that Barney Rubble fella. "Journalists" pumping that people outside the club and some of our own fans think "that's right yeah".

Instead of demanding the best, that Everton are returned to the top echelons. That we have better ambitions than just safety. This Dyche era has overrun, he's outstayed his welcome. Instead of have a manager that can take this squad and Everton on from being "saved" from relegation we have a manager that gets a nose bleed when we win never mind hit mid table. That's not just on him. It's on the club. Thelwell. And every other hanger on that perpetuates this very very low
bar and almost unimportant, small-time, inconsequential existence of Everton Football Club.

Be gone.

You're stuck in 1985 pal. Man utd are about to go through what we are, the slow decline whilst grabbing onto glory days.

 

[Davideeyore]

You're stuck in 1985 pal. Man utd are about to go through what we are, the slow decline whilst grabbing onto glory days.

No, i'm not. I'm quite realistic as it happens about where we are. I also have pride in what my Everton is all about and stands for. It's certainly not this football club over the last number of years.

I think the very basic, bare minimum, is that we've a better team than the manager allows. Any other manager will have us doing better not just this season but last season. Dyche is very limited. He came in to "save us". He has a very low objective. He should have been booted out in the summer (in fact after not winning in 4 months, diabolical).

Let's not just put it on Dyche. He has clearly no pressure to get us higher or performing better. Thelwell's recent comments proves this. Whether people excuse all that because Moshiri isn't arrsed it's up to you. But at the very least this is absolutely not good enough for Everton Football Club. Our standards are mighty low as it is. It should come to pass when TFG take over.

But be my guest. Say i'm stuck in the 80's. No skin off my nose. At least we were a better club then with standards. Nowadays a lot of fans seem to be quite acceptant, quite unfazed, with us being such a limited poor a football club. We've been just 'existing' for years. Just making up the numbers. Never doing anything of note. Not winning a cup. Not getting to cup finals (1 big wow, 15 years ago). Not getting in to Europe. Can't even get out of second gear in the league cup. Now more recently being at the bottom and fighting relegation. And some of you just shrug and accept it. I think that's a sad indictment of how far Everton has slipped from what we used to be.

Then you have smart rrses saying "you're stuck in 1985". How dare you!

 

[Charles Hawtrey]

FY he is just a limited manager. In his standout season he took but let to 7th. That’s it he has been a bottom half manager every other year. That’s his ceiling.
Textor could clearly see it and so will the Friedkins.
Leopards don’t change their spots. He is not a progressive manager he is not going to turn into Sean N’Diayche one day and catapult us to a top ten finish.
So if you are ok with a hood season finishing twelfth then he is our man.
I am not and anyone who invests big money in theBMD Everton won’t be either

 

[Kenyon]

No, i'm not. I'm quite realistic as it happens about where we are. I also have pride in what my Everton is all about and stands for. It's certainly not this football club over the last number of years.

I think the very basic, bare minimum, is that we've a better team than the manager allows. Any other manager will have us doing better not just this season but last season. Dyche is very limited. He came in to "save us". He has a very low objective. He should have been booted out in the summer (in fact after not winning in 4 months, diabolical).

Let's not just put it on Dyche. He has clearly no pressure to get us higher or performing better. Thelwell's recent comments proves this. Whether people excuse all that because Moshiri isn't arrsed it's up to you. But at the very least this is absolutely not good enough for Everton Football Club. Our standards are mighty low as it is. It should come to pass when TFG take over.

But be my guest. Say i'm stuck in the 80's. No skin off my nose. At least we were a better club then with standards. Nowadays a lot of fans seem to be quite acceptant, quite unfazed, with us being such a limited poor a football club. We've been just 'existing' for years. Just making up the numbers. Never doing anything of note. Not winning a cup. Not getting to cup finals (1 big wow, 15 years ago). Not getting in to Europe. Can't even get out of second gear in the league cup. Now more recently being at the bottom and fighting relegation. And some of you just shrug and accept it. I think that's a sad indictment of how far Everton has slipped from what we used to be.

Then you have smart rrses saying "you're stuck in 1985". How dare you!

I don't know, i vascilate between this and the opposite. we've gone through fifty managers while I keep thinking the players
are better than that. Every time I see a starting lineup I think, 'that's a good one, that should do the job' I'm beginning to think
we've just been getting rubbish players for the last ever since moshri took over. I think this whole team is represented perfectly
by Keane.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

No, i'm not. I'm quite realistic as it happens about where we are. I also have pride in what my Everton is all about and stands for. It's certainly not this football club over the last number of years.

I think the very basic, bare minimum, is that we've a better team than the manager allows. Any other manager will have us doing better not just this season but last season. Dyche is very limited. He came in to "save us". He has a very low objective. He should have been booted out in the summer (in fact after not winning in 4 months, diabolical).

Let's not just put it on Dyche. He has clearly no pressure to get us higher or performing better. Thelwell's recent comments proves this. Whether people excuse all that because Moshiri isn't arrsed it's up to you. But at the very least this is absolutely not good enough for Everton Football Club. Our standards are mighty low as it is. It should come to pass when TFG take over.

But be my guest. Say i'm stuck in the 80's. No skin off my nose. At least we were a better club then with standards. Nowadays a lot of fans seem to be quite acceptant, quite unfazed, with us being such a limited poor a football club. We've been just 'existing' for years. Just making up the numbers. Never doing anything of note. Not winning a cup. Not getting to cup finals (1 big wow, 15 years ago). Not getting in to Europe. Can't even get out of second gear in the league cup. Now more recently being at the bottom and fighting relegation. And some of you just shrug and accept it. I think that's a sad indictment of how far Everton has slipped from what we used to be.

Then you have smart rrses saying "you're stuck in 1985". How dare you!

Nothing you say is false, but there's currently no way out of it until this ownership comes through. Once all the history of our previous owners is well and truly exorcised from the club then we will have no excuse not to move forward. You've also misconstrued my comments on the reality as "acceptant", which couldn't be further from the truth.

 

[derek duvall]

My opinion, an incredible job mate!

That description is equal to the level of jeopardy and risk that had to be overcome and achieved and what that means in real terms for the future and wellbeing of the football club for years to come.

Really thought we were goosed, year 1.

Year 2, thought we were semi goosed, but knew he was made of the right stuff, that gave us a chance and so it proved.

This year I’m going to kick back and enjoy, unless the PL has different ideas and Moshiri leaves us a parting PSR gift.

Fully agree..I think we should name the stadium after him, build a 'Christ the Redeemer' statue of him and rename a stand after him.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

I see Dyche as a repair job , a chunk of gorilla tape holding the disparate parts together, a bodge job covering a fracture until it can be repaired properly. Problem is with temporary fixes , you are limited in performance, you can’t approach optimal performance because the ‘fix’ will fail , and the whole will come loose.
We have to replace the gorilla tape with the correct part as soon as possible .
Or we will keep limping along until the the fix finally fails catastrophically.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Be a bit weird trying to attract players in Jan with a manager 5 months from walking away. Also strange to let a manager with a few months left on his contract have any say in purchases/sales.

If he’s going, he’ll have to go pre-Xmas. If he’s not getting sacked, he’ll get a contract extension. Surely won’t see TFG’s first (and important) window then just walk away.

Worrying.

Mind you the point of having football director role is you can remove "head coach" but keep football philosophy. No way anyone can convince me that Dyche by himself alone being in charge of transfers signs Ndiaye and Lindstrom.

 

[Neiler]

Fully agree..I think we should name the stadium after him, build a 'Christ the Redeemer' statue of him and rename a stand after him.

You could, be a bit weird though!

 

[chazzle_dazzle]

Be a bit weird trying to attract players in Jan with a manager 5 months from walking away. Also strange to let a manager with a few months left on his contract have any say in purchases/sales.

If he’s going, he’ll have to go pre-Xmas. If he’s not getting sacked, he’ll get a contract extension. Surely won’t see TFG’s first (and important) window then just walk away.

Worrying.

Am actually thinking the other side of it mate, we won't do anything in Jan, we might get a couple of loans in.

Until TFG are in properly, with their senior leadership team in place, I can't see much happening, Jan is a awful window for purchasing players anyways, it would make more sense for them to say to thelwell continue with the plan and we assess everything in the summer for a full reset, new stadium, new manager, lots of players out of contract, lots more wiggle room.

I mean am saying this, but this is on the assumption Dyche stops trying to get sacked, and form picks up. It feels at the moment with everything he's saying and how he is managing some games that he's desperate to be culled

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

I see Dyche as a repair job , a chunk of gorilla tape holding the disparate parts together, a bodge job covering a fracture until it can be repaired properly. Problem is with temporary fixes , you are limited in performance, you can’t approach optimal performance because the ‘fix’ will fail , and the whole will come loose.
We have to replace the gorilla tape with the correct part as soon as possible .
Or we will keep limping along until the the fix finally fails catastrophically.

Can actually imagine Dyche advertising on Yell.com as a handyman if he'd not gone down the managerial route.

 

[chazzle_dazzle]

Am actually thinking the other side of it mate, we won't do anything in Jan, we might get a couple of loans in.

Until TFG are in properly, with their senior leadership team in place, I can't see much happening, Jan is a awful window for purchasing players anyways, it would make more sense for them to say to thelwell continue with the plan and we assess everything in the summer for a full reset, new stadium, new manager, lots of players out of contract, lots more wiggle room.

I mean am saying this, but this is on the assumption Dyche stops trying to get sacked, and form picks up. It feels at the moment with everything he's saying and how he is managing some games that he's desperate to be culled

Haha sorry we won't even get loans in we are filled for our quota anyways.

Completely forgot about Broja - I think we will be lucky to add to the squad in Jan, never a buyers market - specially what could be a desperate buyer.