2022/23 Sean Dyche

[Dougie]

Dyche is going nowhere. However, for those thinking we are getting entertaining football, think again. Dyche is pragmatic and he knows his job depends on getting results. He'll target the games he thinks we can win or get something out of and it will be park the bus in the rest. Bottom line is we can't afford to replace him and start the merry go round. The good news is that various other clubs in the Prem face FFP challenges and that will level the playing field. The top clubs will spend a fortune again and the gap will grow ever wider between the have's and have not's. And that is the problem with modern day football.

Depends on what people opinions are on regards to entertaining football. I for one I’ve been pleased with how we have played under dyche with what he has available. Yes it’s not perfect at times and needs improvements, but im hoping with the right additions we will see that. Looks like he wants a physically fit powerhouse team that can force errors and counter attack. But also mix it up and do the ugly side. I’m all for that at present.

 

[coleman=quality]

As i wrote, id see who would be interested and then if its not someone levels above then id just keep Dyche.

With the caveat that all signings must be u23.

So you would just say hang fire Sean just going to put the feelers out see if anyone fancies your job don’t worry tho ginge if no one levels above you shows interest you keep it buddy. What’s u23 signings going to do for us? The next 3-4 signings need to be first team regulars with experience, we aren’t in a position to put our hope in up and coming players and expect them to perform every week.

 

[Tony101]

Why is 15th acceptable all of a sudden, because we have financial problems?
We had 20 years before Moshiri came in with financial issues and we never accepted 15th, so why now?

Our ambition next season for some on here is to finish above
Luton
Sheff Utd
Burnley
Forest
Bournemouth

lollollollollollollol

I get what you’re saying and all but the season before last we finished 16th and now just finished 17th. Hopefully that slide doesn’t continue. I would love to see Everton do well like everyone else. I also would just be happy with a season. I don’t have to worry about relegation. I can at least then enjoy the stadium progress videos.

 

[Zatara]

He finds a solid goalscorer and we are easily safe next season. He just needs one. Of course we’d love to fill the other spots and aim higher but that is unrealistic- we’d have to be insanely shrewd and luck out with some cheapo bargain bin gems and loans. How he performs in the transfer window and how he handles youth and the likes of Maupay will determine my opinion of him.

I'd say 2 attacking players but certainly all eyes on the direction of transfer business

Another scattergun approach or a couple of top tier signings to boost morale and improve the team.

Dyche is going nowhere. However, for those thinking we are getting entertaining football, think again. Dyche is pragmatic and he knows his job depends on getting results. He'll target the games he thinks we can win or get something out of and it will be park the bus in the rest. Bottom line is we can't afford to replace him and start the merry go round. The good news is that various other clubs in the Prem face FFP challenges and that will level the playing field. The top clubs will spend a fortune again and the gap will grow ever wider between the have's and have not's. And that is the problem with modern day football.

I keep seeing that hes pragmatic but it doesnt quite sit right to me.

The amout of strange decisions hes made doesnt seem at all pragmatic to me.

Hes been very lucky.

 

[Osamabindiesel]

I'd say 2 attacking players but certainly all eyes on the direction of transfer business

Another scattergun approach or a couple of top tier signings to boost morale and improve the team.




I keep seeing that hes pragmatic but it doesnt quite sit right to me.

The amout of strange decisions hes made doesnt seem at all pragmatic to me.

Hes been very lucky.

You get one surefire goalscorer and it opens things up for other guys. As for Dyche he took a lot of risks this season because he absolutely had to. Doucore getting that red card at Spurs almost got us relegated as we had no replacement for him. I think he is pragmatic in the sense that he can hold onto a 1-0 lead, but he likes to strike first and early. He is capable of getting the guys to play good stuff but he is a protect leads at all costs kind of manager. I wouldn’t say he is boring at least. Mixed bag.

 

[Zatara]

So you would just say hang fire Sean just going to put the feelers out see if anyone fancies your job don’t worry tho ginge if no one levels above you shows interest you keep it buddy. What’s u23 signings going to do for us? The next 3-4 signings need to be first team regulars with experience, we aren’t in a position to put our hope in up and coming players and expect them to perform every week.

I'd have had Thelwell working on a blueprint including playing style. Then i would have a selection of attainable managers to fit that blueprint so if the manager quits or is sacked theres already a structured list of targets who fit the strategy.

Not the bouncing between direct and passing that we go between every appointment.

So the likes of Bellingham, Musiala, Saka, Haaland, Pedri, Gavi, Ramos, Martinelli, Gvardiol and Hojlund arent up to snuff for you?

The only way a club like Everton can consistently improve every season is to sign top young players to slot straight into the first 11. Keep them for 2-3 seasons and sell at top whack and then sign 2 top new young players to replace them.

The rumour is that Onana is valued at £60-70mil. Id sell at £75mil so we double our money after clauses. If we wait 12months and sell at that same figure we're just under £7mil better off...in 24months were about £14mil better off.

Last summer we were linked with Goncalo Ramos, Mo Kudus, Mudryk and Gakpo for fees between £15mil and £30mil.

Aside from Mudryk the three others have seen their values more than double. If we had signed any of them our team would be vastly improved.

What the team needs this summer would be a left back, attacking midfielder, centre forward and a right winger.

Intelligent sales enabling us to strengthen with similar to those linked last summer would massively strengthen us...Maupay, Iwobi, Keane and Holgate should bring in enough for 1 top notch u23 player.

WIth the way FFP works and with what we have to spend we'd probably be able to sneak in a 2nd.

If we added an El Bilal Toure and a Xavi Simons into our eleven I assure you we'd be a FAR FAR FAR better team.

Then in 12months time we look to sell one or two like Onana and then sign in an u23 replacement + another top notch u23 player.

Thats how you build squads and squad value while holding onto a core of top young players to develop around like Branthwaite, McNeil, Patterson or whoever.

But you want to sign experience which is either:

A: Very expensive for top players
B: Limiting the ability of players due to low budgets
C: Short term focused
D: Requiring a vast tier one scouting network like Brighton has.

Although the way i would do it is to spend big on the u23s and bring in experience for low fees or on loan.

The focus has to be building a squad of top young talent. Or wait for relegation.

 

[Zatara]

I hope Dyche can turn us into a powerful, quick counter attacking team while building around young players like Simeone did.

Was interesting for Guardiola to say were the best in the league at transitions...

...we just need the cutting edge.

 

[Blueclouds]

Yeah,
I never wanted Lampard as manager, but he was the best of a small and very depressing short list, ultimately I’d have been as accepting of Pereira had he been appointed.
But, I liked the way Lampard tried to play football, the fact he failed doesn’t negate that preference.
I will also say I found him far more inspiring than the current incumbent whose faux hard man persona is as dull as dishwater.
Ultimately I’d like to see Everton to develop into a team that actually enjoys being in possession of the ball, and Dyche teams habitually avoid the spherical object like the plague.
It’s all subjective though isn’t it ?

I value staying in the premiership over pretty football and I have enjoyed the football under the dishwasher.

 

[PhilM]

I value staying in the premiership over pretty football and I have enjoyed the football under the dishwasher.

As will I for next year. We need to be pragmatic: for us to build again, we need stability and that comes in terms of finances, exposure and the football on the pitch.

We'd all prefer to see fantastic, expansive football that's a joy to the eye, but right now admittedly I'd be content with football that's effective in terms of the above.

Being entirely honest, we are where we are - a team flirting with relegation. Now, we could theoretically go from there to up top in one go, but that's not realistic.

So, a season where we're comfortably safe as early as possible will do us the world of good. From there, we can then build the squad, a style of play and whatnot.

The main barrier to playing attacking, attractive football is not the current incumbent manager, yet rather the squad we have - that needs building.

Is Dyche the best man to build a squad that will play with flair? Perhaps not, yet if he gets us to a point of stability then we can start to look upwards etc.

Horses for courses springs to mind...

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

I value staying in the premiership over pretty football and I have enjoyed the football under the dishwasher.

Like I said it’s subjective.
I prefer watching teams who enjoy being in possession, and I’ve never been an aficionado of the counter attacking style.
I remember when Grimsby came to Goodison many years ago when we were a good.
They only got out of their half about twice during the whole match.
Unfortunately the second occasion they managed that feat towards the end, Wilkinson scored what proved to be the winner.
There fans celebrated knocking us out of the cup as they should , a small lower league club knocking the , then, mighty Everton out of the cup.
But we support Everton not Grimsby Town, and I expect an Everton side to actually play football.

 

[davek]

I get what you’re saying and all but the season before last we finished 16th and now just finished 17th. Hopefully that slide doesn’t continue. I would love to see Everton do well like everyone else. I also would just be happy with a season. I don’t have to worry about relegation. I can at least then enjoy the stadium progress videos.

I think for at least next season we'll get a chance to catch our breath.

Those clubs coming up from the Championship look like muck to me. At least two will be relegated. And for my money Wolves look a poor bet for next season. They dont score, aren't going to be able to spend, and the whole thing hinges on Lopetegui being happy...which looks unlikely. And B'mouth under O'Neill will be vulnerable too. Forest will take the drop again, maybe as soon as next season.

Just getting a couple of forwards in and strengthening our FB situation will ensure we keep ahead of that lot.

 

[Saint Domingo]

I value staying in the premiership over pretty football and I have enjoyed the football under the dishwasher.

Winning football is good football. Anything else is just aesthetic hipster preference. If Dyche has this team winning regularly the majority of fans won’t give one what the football looks like.

 

[Saint Domingo]

I think for at least next season we'll get a chance to catch our breath.

Those clubs coming up from the Championship look like muck to me. At least two will be relegated. And for my money Wolves look a poor bet for next season. They dont score, aren't going to be able to spend, and the whole thing hinges on Lopetegui being happy...which looks unlikely. And B'mouth under O'Neill will be vulnerable too. Forest will take the drop again, maybe as soon as next season.

Just getting a couple of forwards in and strengthening our FB situation will ensure we keep ahead of that lot.

agree with you except I think Cooper at Forest actually has something about him. He did well to actually get a cogent team out of the chaos of that squad size. Something Potter and Lampard couldn’t manage at Chelsea.

I think Bournemouth switched off once safe last season and it can be difficult to switch it back on. Luton and Sheffield United don’t look as strong as some of the previous teams that have come up. If Lopetegui leaves then Wolves could be in trouble also.

With the right recruitment and keeping our players fit we can avoid a relegation campaign under Dyche no doubt in my mind.

As ever though if someone at Everton continues to bank on DCL and Patterson’s fitness over a whole season, or build a side around Michael Keane, then we’ll end up once again with a pop gun attack and a sieve defence. The right additions in the back line and two first choice attacking options upfront and we ‘re mid table in my view.

 

[gonetomorrow]

I hope Dyche can turn us into a powerful, quick counter attacking team while building around young players like Simeone did.

Was interesting for Guardiola to say were the best in the league at transitions...

...we just need the cutting edge.

Like Burnley only better.

 

[davek]

agree with you except I think Cooper at Forest actually has something about him. He did well to actually get a cogent team out of the chaos of that squad size. Something Potter and Lampard couldn’t manage at Chelsea.

I think Bournemouth switched off once safe last season and it can be difficult to switch it back on. Luton and Sheffield United don’t look as strong as some of the previous teams that have come up. If Lopetegui leaves then Wolves could be in trouble also.

With the right recruitment and keeping our players fit we can avoid a relegation campaign under Dyche no doubt in my mind.

As ever though if someone at Everton continues to bank on DCL and Patterson’s fitness over a whole season, or build a side around Michael Keane, then we’ll end up once again with a pop gun attack and a sieve defence. The right additions in the back line and two first choice attacking options upfront and we ‘re mid table in my view.

On Forest: I wonder where they'll be if they get stripped of the likes of Johnson and Gibbs White. They have spirit, but finding your feet in the PL is notoriously difficult.

B'mouth: they hit a purple patch and it saved them. But they're not a good team. I dont see the quality there. And when all is sad and done, they finished 3 points ahead of us in one of our worst seasons ever.

Wolves: reports of 8 departures there this summer. I wonder how that effects their cohesion. And spending looks to be as limited as ours is predicted to be.

For us: we have a decent MF and defence relative to other bottom of the table teams. If we add a goalscorer it'll keep us out of trouble.