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2022/23 Sean Dyche

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I think if we're still at 0-0 with like 20 minutes left in games he has to be brought on up top or alongside a striker. Has to. He's the only player in the squad that can score out of nothing.
I agree if we are struggling he should be brought on but I can see why he is not starting at the moment.
 
Except the really important measures like chances created and goals scored. They might be coming from the same place but Brentford are good at it which is ultimately my problem with Dyche above all else. He's just not very good.
It's a bit hard to follow you, you jump from argument to argument. So you don't mind if we play a lot of long balls, get the ball quickly in the opponent's half (often omitting to involve the midfield), have a lot of crosses from the corridor, and try to score a good proportion of the goals from set pieces?

If I also understand you correctly, you mean that Sean Dyche's performances with Burnley are not very impressive, nor was he very good at what he tried to do. In fact, he was extremely lucky.
 
I think if we're still at 0-0 with like 20 minutes left in games he has to be brought on up top or alongside a striker. Has to. He's the only player in the squad that can score out of nothing.
I think he might suit away games better under Dyche. At home we are getting balls into the box and that's not really his game.
 

Pointless changing the manager lad. Won't make a difference lad. Lampard is such a top fella. Lad.
I genuinely think a lot of us were just so sick of the players and the manager merry go round that we supported Lampard probably longer than we should. I know personally I held on too long hoping it would change but at the end it was every bit as horrendous as Benítez and became untenable.

I don't think there's anything wrong thinking someone is a good bloke but it probably blinkered me a bit, just so desperate for some stability.
 
I genuinely think a lot of us were just so sick of the players and the manager merry go round that we supported Lampard probably longer than we should. I know personally I held on too long hoping it would change but at the end it was every bit as horrendous as Benítez and became untenable.

I don't think there's anything wrong thinking someone is a good bloke but it probably blinkered me a bit, just so desperate for some stability.
That was understandable. But as some of us pointed out, you can only have stability when the right manager has been appointed. Lampard never was that man. Neither was Benitez. Is Dyche? Well, he is probably the right man right now. To keep us up. Beyond that, remains to be seen. We all certainly hope so, but no Everton manager can survive runs like those endured by Benitez and Lampard...

All that said, nobody here has a monopoly on knowing who the right managerial appointment is. I remember being thrilled at the "capture" of Mike Walker...
 
It’s less OTT than after Arsenal I’ll say too much. We just have a habit of swinging to extremes. I’m forgetting about the wins as soon as they happen till this season is over. These players are cowards and need to show us they will fight when they don’t have Goodison behind them.
Exactly. We just need another 5 (hopefully) wins. I don't know if we have enough in our ranks to get it because there's such a lack of quality. Really am unsure how some people can't see that.

Leeds were utterly abysmal yesterday. Some of that was good work from Coleman on Gnonto (Coleman probs the best player on the pitch even without his goal) but w2e won't play many other teams that bad.
 

We'll have to be much better against Villa next week to get anything, so I see what @TheBigIguana is saying to an extent.

But that's also on players not making insanse decisions.

Gana was so reckless yesterday at times. Onana and Doucoure were so sloppy. McNeil and Iwobi likewise.

Dyche isn't telling them to make daft decisions. They just do because they're not that good.

We have to grind out wins in spite of how bad we are. Hopefully winning breeds confidence and they then manage to get some form and show what they are good at.
 
I genuinely think a lot of us were just so sick of the players and the manager merry go round that we supported Lampard probably longer than we should. I know personally I held on too long hoping it would change but at the end it was every bit as horrendous as Benítez and became untenable.

I don't think there's anything wrong thinking someone is a good bloke but it probably blinkered me a bit, just so desperate for some stability.
Yes I think a lot of that went around. He was a good guy, talked well about the club and fortunately for him, the Board and the players were priority 1 & 2 when directing the criticism - Lampard was priority 3 and that bought him more time than he should have had
 
We'll have to be much better against Villa next week to get anything, so I see what @TheBigIguana is saying to an extent.

But that's also on players not making insanse decisions.

Gana was so reckless yesterday at times. Onana and Doucoure were so sloppy. McNeil and Iwobi likewise.

Dyche isn't telling them to make daft decisions. They just do because they're not that good.

We have to grind out wins in spite of how bad we are. Hopefully winning breeds confidence and they then manage to get some form and show what they are good at.

Good players create chances as well though, so it can’t all go at the managers door.

If we had prime Messi Suarez Neymar upfront with Iniesta behind them I’m sure our chance creation metrics would look far far better no matter what Dyche did with them.

Instead he’s got players who literally can’t execute a simple final pass or cross even with time on the ball.

Now if you’re even a semi competent PL manager who wants to keep his job and is in a relegation battle with confidence amongst fans and players absolutely brittle, do you play a style of football you know they can handle and gives you a chance of winning the game, or do you play a style that the players can’t even execute, might get you punted for loads of counter attack goals at home, but hey at least the Graham Potter hipster fan club on GOT likes your opta stats?

If Dyche had a front three of any combination of fully fit prime Richarlison, DCL, Lukaku, Yakubu, Mirallas, James etc. We’d have absolutely battered both Arsenal and Leeds. Better players create better chances and are more likely to take them.

He’s doing what he needs to to create chances out of McNeil Maupay Iwobi and Docoure. If anyone has a better way of doing it I’d love to see it. If it involves passing and controlling a football though you’re goosed.
 
That was understandable. But as some of us pointed out, you can only have stability when the right manager has been appointed. Lampard never was that man. Neither was Benitez. Is Dyche? Well, he is probably the right man right now. To keep us up. Beyond that, remains to be seen. We all certainly hope so, but no Everton manager can survive runs like those endured by Benitez and Lampard...

All that said, nobody here has a monopoly on knowing who the right managerial appointment is. I remember being thrilled at the "capture" of Mike Walker...
He's probably the right man for the job for as long as we are up against it financially. I think we will be up against it financially for the foreseeable future.
 

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