2022/23 Sean Dyche

[Dwight K Schrute]

'Dross like Burnley' lol. If we played you tomorrow we would embarrass you. You need to wake up and smell the coffee and realise where Everton have fallen too and that is why you need to get Dyche in. He had to play the way he did with us because of the players at his disposal. He created a team of players who fought for the badge. That's what Everton need, a team who realise what the shirt means to your loyal fans. He will sort out the bad apples in the dressing room. His last 2 seasons at Burnley he had very little to spend and with an ageing squad the inevitable happened but I am sure he will get you back to where you should be given the chance. See you next season.

You were dross under Dyche. We are dross now too and will only continue that way under Dyche.

 

[gorgeousgeorgeEFC]

People on here saying Dyche would be the ‘safe’ or ‘sensible’ option is doing my head in. How can we expect the owner and board to get us the best possible when a shocking amount of supporters now think Dyche is that? He isnt. Hes the boring, easy choice. Hes a poor mans Sam Allardyce. He is not what we need.

He’s not really on Allardyce’s level, though.

 

[Nyhus]

He’s not really on Allardyce’s level, though.

I agree, thats why i called him a poor mans Allardyce. ?

 

[cahill 17]

I'm expecting f.a. from those two fixtures.

I've factored them out and believe we can look at the 16 games after that for enough points.

If we got a point even from Arsenal or Liverpool it would be a boost.


Get Dyche in and we can guts this out and win ugly enough times to survive.

Personally I wouldn't touch Bielsa right now with a barge pole.

nail on the head id be very worried if we got bielsa at this moment in time

 

[Neiler]

 

[Davideeyore]

Moshiri favours Bielsa. Quite. He's the owner, DoF, chief scout, all rolled in to one

 

[Suttoner]

Moshiri favours Bielsa. Quite. He's the owner, DoF, chief scout, all rolled in to one

Massive mistake if that's the case

 

[billyblue80]

Moshiri favours Bielsa. Quite. He's the owner, DoF, chief scout, all rolled in to one

And that's why we are atrocious, in the bottom three, with no manager and no new signings.

 

[billyblue80]

What I don't get is why they need a week if you are sacking a manager most well run clubs sort the next one out first and have them sounded out before you sack your incumbent. This crazy club does no such thing and ends up with a circus and few days in the market left for the second year running which is the only thing that could save us. Insanity. I would be surprised if we get away with it this time.

 

[Cjplennon]

I think almost certainly well end up with Dyche.

Hopefully, hes the most sensible choice out of all options that seem to be on the table.

 

[Cjplennon]

To get Bielsa we'd have to assure him we'd get players, and it may not work. Dyche would probably make do with what we have, which probably won't work. As we seem to be broke, we'll probably go for Dyche.

Well it worked with players much worse than ours. He even managed to get decent performances out of McNeil, who we all say is crap.

 

[Cjplennon]

What I don't get is why they need a week if you are sacking a manager most well run clubs sort the next one out first and have them sounded out before you sack your incumbent. This crazy club does no such thing and ends up with a circus and few days in the market left for the second year running which is the only thing that could save us. Insanity. I would be surprised if we get away with it this time.

Im not sure that other clubs do have someone lined up though. Perhaps they have a name in their head, but they still have to convince them to come and join you once you sack the current manager. Im find it hard to believe the board hasnt thought about it of course, but its definitely not public knowledge. As soon as you start tapping up managers then its in the papers and obvious you have lost confindence in the current manager and the games up. They must have thought about a change during the WC, but who was honestly available?

 

[BlueInNZ]

What I don't get is why they need a week if you are sacking a manager most well run clubs sort the next one out first and have them sounded out before you sack your incumbent. This crazy club does no such thing and ends up with a circus and few days in the market left for the second year running which is the only thing that could save us. Insanity. I would be surprised if we get away with it this time.

Absolutely right. That's why this has become a charade. It's not like the board doesn't have any recent experience of sacking managers and recruiting replacements. To me that's the biggest sign of their incompetence.

 

[Cjplennon]

That is exactly part of the problem. I'm sick of terrible football, with no joy and still being useless. Everything Dyche will deliver too.

There is not some unreconcilable difference between playing good stuff and being effective, but listening to our crazy fans you'd think there is. Make good managerial appointments and sort your recruitment out and it happens. Dyche is more of the awful same. And, as is always the case under Kenwright's misrule, he has a huge majority of fans actually begging for it and defending it. It's genuinely crazy to me. Then the same people will moan in a few years time about how much we've been left behind, how poor our squad is etc.

What do you think, we are going from the current shower to being Barcelona overnight by employing Bielsa? NO, we have to suck it up that we will be crap for a while longer due to a crap squad. Dyche can get something out of this squad and with (hopefully) a bigger budget and than he ever had at Burnley and some patience he can build something.

 

[Cjplennon]

It's going to be selective to a degree because I don't have access (nor the will) to go through every game to show you consistent examples of Burnley playing on the front foot. This is the best I can do given limited highlights (goals). I don't think it's excessively selective though - as said, I've shown you a stretch of about 8 games, half of which Burnley scored as a result of a positive, forward thinking high press - certainly something most fans don't associate them with. Not sure how else I can demonstrate that the 'dinosaur' claim is false outside of this broad method.

Re: the excuses - I think it's unfair to say they didn't progress the playing style - lots of technical quality added into the side like Defour, Tarkowski, Westwood, Brownhill, McNeil (form fallen off a cliff for us but Burnley played to his very strong left foot).

The constraints above him should be taken into account though - they had zero cash and a board reluctant to sign off on foreign signings (because they saw them as riskier - ask your mates what they think of the Burnley board pre-takeover). Eventually that board was replaced by ALK Capital, which then allowed Dyche to bring in Cornet and Weghorst from abroad. In this context, I think he has demonstrated that he's a very good coach.

Great post, unfortunately you will never convince some who have pre concieved ideas. Dyche is less a dinosaur than Bielsa who only has one style that wont work (even he admits it) with our squad.