2023/24 Sean Dyche

[Drico]

No; there’s nothing positive about relegation.

It’ll financially ruin us for a decade or more

Nothing changed, Chris. We were promised change - got none. There may be nothing positive about relegation, but it’s the inevitable consequence of our interminable inertia. Matter of time.

 

[Drico]

I would just add I hope he does OK and lasts until the end of the season.

I don't want this owner and Chairman picking another manager. They're not very good at it.

Their record tells us all we need to know. Every time we sack a manager, our board has failed. No accountability at the top. Sack away boys, it’s a death spiral now.

 

[summerisle]

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

He's a disgrace when it comes to Everton commentary.

I think it must have something to do with how he left?

Howard famously bombed him out at Man City, so he came here and ended up being an integral part of that Dogs of War side

However, Howard then comes back and he promptly gets bombed out again

I can only assume he's bitter about that?

Does he ever go after Man City like he goes after us?

 

[maccavennie]

I think it must have something to do with how he left?

Howard famously bombed him out at Man City, so he came here and ended up being an integral part of that Dogs of War side

However, Howard then comes back and he promptly gets bombed out again

I can only assume he's bitter about that?

Does he ever go after Man City like he goes after us?

Never heard him say anything against City.

The minute I heard his mingin accent on Sunday it was just like "not only will we get beat here, but I'll have to listen to this tit as well".

 

[Johnniepk]

He’s putting blind faith in players that are not good enough for this club, coupled with horrible tactics

Exactly this.

 

[DualityNSNO]

The window? Like the one Dyche had last January?

I’ve no stake in Dyche succeeding, but I’d love to see the same pressure applied to the board as we love to apply to our managers.

Yeah, Dyche should get full support for everything ever and only praise, because our board is crap.

Record = broken, mate, honestly.

 

[mahermi1]

Exactly this.

If Keane starts again I will be close to despair, surely Dyche can't start him again, is it a case of an old dog can't learn new tricks..

 

[Blue peter]

It's an away match mate, he doesn't expect to take anything from those, why should he be angry?

It is absolutely chronic and he's fallen in the same BS like every game he's managed for us, except (ironically) the 1st one. There's no donkey to magically kick the ball in the net this time either, so he's out of his Doucoure wild card as he's back to form being terrible.

We're lacking "fit" players apparently, after a full season which was expected to be enough to get people up to Dyche's speed, which we've failed.
We've somehow mastered the art of simultaneously looking dangerous and like we're about to score but we never do as we're basically impotent as a team and rely on shots from distance or "lump it in to the big guy", who is usually Neal Maupay, as Chermiti will take 7 months to be "Dyche ready" obviously.
We've made timely changes only when we're absolutely dire as is the Dyche ruling, and they've been laughable changes as well to be perfectly honest, but if we have to be positive - we can still see this changing for the better at some point (and to see subs being used before the 80th minute, obligatory @Paul Rideout lol )
We've addressed 0 issues from last year and in fact invited some more in in the persistence of Michael Keane, and there's a lot more problems if we have to dig more.

People will still say the problems are with Kenwright/Moshiri though, naturally, as they obviously pick the training, team and tactics and are personally responsible for the dross we play on the pitch. "Oh but there's no one better to play" I hear you say - yeah, shame we haven't bought any strikers or anything. Or we've forgotten Branthwaite behind. We defo can't also play a youngster of any sort and not Maupay, because we're going for ExPeRiEnCe. But if we do - well, we'll just never play on the ground like we try when he's on the pitch, we'll HOOOOOOOF and play with 9 men behind the ball and 1 striker chasing shadows. I get it, Dobbin (and Cannon, etc.) is raw, but he's also capable to produce something and clearly wants to show it or try things, whereas Iwobi is proven crap, but experienced proven crap and "a good motor" no doubt are valued above flair or ability to make things happen for the Slug.

I've lost all hope Dyche has changed his Brexit ways and we're just the Blue Burnley now. We have to hope we survive by the skin of our teeth again to further prove that we're the turd that the Premier League just can't flush.

You’re right in everything you say but whilst Kenwright / Moshiri do not select the team (although Brands mentioned something about Rodriguez and Moshiri wanting him in) they do provide the funds the build the team squad, and they do actually appoint the manager. Dyche is absolutely doing himself no favours at all, (and history shows he is not a high scoring manager) but do you honestly have confidence that if we get rid, the same two muppets will pick an appropriate person to replace him? Dyche has so far shown he is not getting the best tune out of these players, but the best tune is only likely to reach no higher than say 15th come seasons end without more attacking players - that’s on FM/BK/KT. The fear I have is we copy what Leicester did last year….terrible start but they had players to then go on a run….we do not. We could find ourselves cut adrift by Christmas.

 

[Blue peter]

No; there’s nothing positive about relegation.

It’ll financially ruin us for a decade or more

They’re nothing positive about this current situation either. We are currently a financially distressed asset.

I don’t want to be relegated, but I can see why people say that….we are going nowhere….some other clubs have gone down, come back up under new ownership and are starting to thrive.

 

[Blue peter]

If we're bottom three come the Derby we should have someone else waiting in the wings.

Let Dyche have that game and then get rid.

But we all know it will be late Jan before a change is made if it's needed.

But you know we won’t because we are reactive (and far too late with it) and not proactive. There is no such thing as contingency planning (or any sort of coherent planning) at the club.

 

[woomy]

So soon in the season and I feel as though this is a big moment in his time here.
He must learn and adjust.
Keane out. Get away from 451, it doesn't suit the players we have.
I almost feel as though we should forget about having our fb's be attacking and just shut up shop in defence.

He had to adjust and adjust now.

 

[dublinbluenose]

If he digs his heels in with Keane then he'll be gone before xmas as we simply cannot win games with Keane in the side.

 

[matty1878]

if anyone thinks relegation is a good thing

even if i’m not in the relegation thread

you need your head testing

 

[matty1878]

Nothing changed, Chris. We were promised change - got none. There may be nothing positive about relegation, but it’s the inevitable consequence of our interminable inertia. Matter of time.

well it’s not if it gets sorted