Delargeinho
Player Valuation: £15m
Should have stopped the season under Benitez after 5 games.
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2023/24 Sean Dyche
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I'd rather that season had never started tbh
He's getting on my nerves like
Would say he's a bit lucky we're such a mess
Would say he's a bit lucky we're such a mess
30 points without the deduction for a team that was in absolute shambles and still has glaring flaws is impressive and he should get plaudits for it but im starting to notice some regression to our approach that wasnt evident earlier in the season. We've always been abysmal at finishing but we had a slew of games where we had numerous shots on target, and even some rare moments of sliding the ball into the box , now we're just sitting back and lobbing imprecise
Crosses , hoping something happens. Feels very last days of frank attacking wise.
Obviously our squad is limited but his recent lineups have really hindered the likelihood of effective attacking forays. We keep sitting back but with mcneil it's hard launch a counterattack. I was very irked with the Palace game as there was no reason to play it so defensive minded.
Crosses , hoping something happens. Feels very last days of frank attacking wise.
Obviously our squad is limited but his recent lineups have really hindered the likelihood of effective attacking forays. We keep sitting back but with mcneil it's hard launch a counterattack. I was very irked with the Palace game as there was no reason to play it so defensive minded.
GrandOldSte117
Player Valuation: £20m
Sacking Dyche would be the most mental thing we could do in the face of further deductions, a takeover, and all our money going to a new stadium. I don't know why people keep calling for it
Bluemersey
Player Valuation: £5m
There is literally no one in charge capable of sacking him, has the safest job in football. Moshiri has given up so he won't be arsed paying off yet another management team. Club needs new owners ASAP or this nightmare rollercoaster will keep on rolling year on year.
It's scarily obvious that dyche has hit a brickwall, whilst making us more defensively solid he has completely screwed up what little attacking prowess we had.
If we survive AGAIN this season then a massive broom, investment and restructure of the entire playing style is required in the summer. That can't happen without some serious good fortune, talent and real impetus to change. Think we have suffered enough now.
I'm not advocating sacking dyche but if we can achieve some stability behind the scenes which seems like quite a feat , and want to actually start evolving as a club , I don't think dyche is the man to orchestrate that effort, he's decent for halting a slide and instilling some resilience when the resources are limited but he's no moyes
So obviously I'd keep him for the season but he's never going to change overall he's very rooted to his philosophy of pragmatism, so he can show times where he is more adventurous he's always going to revert to his baseline mentality
So obviously I'd keep him for the season but he's never going to change overall he's very rooted to his philosophy of pragmatism, so he can show times where he is more adventurous he's always going to revert to his baseline mentality
If we had a technical No10 , say a James or Bernard do you honestly think Dyche would play him ahead of Doucoure?
Does that equally apply to the forwards?
Titus Bramble
Best centre half to grace the Premier League
He also probably wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the mess we are in.
Titus Bramble
Best centre half to grace the Premier League
Yeah probably, but there are a few caveats to it (as I'm sure there are for the defensive argument in fairness).
Suring up a defense can have a negative impact on your attack... if your natural shape is to sit deep and have your wide men tracking back, it's more difficult to get up the pitch quickly to create goal scoring opportunities - which is why set pieces can be so important.
To be honest with you, I don't think it's our chance creation that's the issue... it's our chance conversion. Again, plenty of room for argument regarding 'DO WE NOT DO FINISHING PRACTISE' and 'he's the one who picks the forwards' etc, but if DCL had converted even 10% of the chances he's had over the last couple months we'd have more points on the board.
I'm the last one to argue that DCL is a natural finisher but if all your forward play is predicated on him it begs the question, why is Dyche still selecting him?
Absolutely no doubt that Dyche has ( same as every team he's managed ) set us up as a defensive team to play on the counter and to profit from set pieces.
The major flaw with that is that we have zero pace in the team.
Dyche is a very limited manager who has little or no tactical flexibility.
Combine that with a mindset that he will select favourites regardless of form and you get the reason why we have an inability to win matches
Cake
Player Valuation: £1m
The only voice coming out of the club about anything is Dyche’s. The emails they push out are pathetic; “Win a car sticker”, “Bottomless brunch for 2 at The Hot Wok”, “Dangle your kids from the top balcony in our Super Prize Draw”, “How to win washing the match kit for a month”… It’s all distraction carrot dangling garbage.
Where are Moshiri and Chong on the deduction and takeover? Where is the excitement and hope for the future from them in our wonderful new stadium?
They have left Dyche to deal with the lot for the fans and the media including trying to get a result from that squad of players. We have every right to go wild at Masters and the PL but don’t let these jokers off the hook for everything they also (haven’t) done.
Where are Moshiri and Chong on the deduction and takeover? Where is the excitement and hope for the future from them in our wonderful new stadium?
They have left Dyche to deal with the lot for the fans and the media including trying to get a result from that squad of players. We have every right to go wild at Masters and the PL but don’t let these jokers off the hook for everything they also (haven’t) done.
Titus Bramble
Best centre half to grace the Premier League
I singled out DCL in my post, but in reality there are plenty of other regulars in our team who are guilty of missing sitters. FWIW - I think the reason Dyche is still selecting him is simply because he's the best centre forward at the club.
Agree on the pace. Only Dobbin and Danjuma jump out at me as players who have out and out pace and the ability to beat a man, but for whatever reason Dyche doesn't fancy them. I'd imagine he doesn't want to sacrifice the shape of the team, hence why he picks his 'favourites', as they're the more disciplined option.
And I disagree with your final statement - our inability to win matches for the most part this season is a result of us not being clinical enough in front of goal.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
A weird obsession? It’s a whole thread of people criticising him. He’s gained 30 points this season, we’d probably have been about 4 or 5 points away from a total that will be enough to stay up without the points deduction. All this from a squad that has battled relegation up to the last two games in the previous 2 seasons.
Even with the points deductions he still has us currently on the right side of the line. That’s with us selling Gordon as soon as he walked through the door, selling both young striking prospects, and not spending anything in two successive Jan transfer windows. Honestly what did some people expect from him when he walked through the door last season? Every single person would have taken him keeping us up and then having us 12th the season after in February a handful of points from safety and ten above the drop zone. Every single one.
The points deduction isn’t his fault.
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