2023/24 Sean Dyche

[Neiler]

Wolves absolutely thumped us 3 going on 5 when we were only missing Gana, Doucs and Young!!
We hardly laid a glove on Palace who were without a manager and relied on a 85th minute equaliser.
We couldn't see out a one nil lead against 10 men Brighton, he actually put 10 men behind the ball even though we had an extra player.
The football has been set fire to your eyes rubbish all season.
We have had better luck with injuries this year than I can remember in recent times.
He is yet to take any blame for any part of the season.
He's a nose picking brow rubbing dinosaur.
There is plenty of context whichever way you want to look at it.

That's hardly plenty of context, acknowledging we had our starting midfield out VS Wolves at the end of a jading Xmas fixture list - your making my argument for me here and drawing against Palace (we took 4pts of them) and Brighton away.

Oh and sorry nose picking - important to get that in there or the argument would have been lost. lol

Wont be storming the Bastille any time soon.

 

[Goat]

We lost twice at home, to Luton bloody Town, thats all the context I need.

 

[Nymzee]

You're a grown man talking about what another grown man will wear at a footy match. This thread is really scraping the barrell now

Crying out load we know you're either related to him and/or wank off to a poster of him.

No. One. Is. Listening. To. You. In. This. Thread.

 

[Papa Shango]

I actually think the next few games decides if he keeps his job or not. If we get another 2 wins a draw, we’ve actually (taking away the 15 game streak) had a half decent season.

He will probably see out his contract at the very least.

 

[Daytripper]

Who did?

When all the protests were happening people were mocking it

 

[Neiler]

The only League game we lost from New Years eve to the 2nd of March was City away!

15 games though......

 

[Goat]

The only League game we lost from New Years eve to the 2nd of March was City away!

15 games though......

But that was 6 games.

It wasnt 15 games.

Tue

Dec

19​

2023​

7.45pm

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Fulham

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38,715​

Beto (lost 6-7 on pens)

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Tottenham

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1​

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2​

16

61,808​

Gomes A

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27​

2023​

8.15pm

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Man City

L

1​

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3​

17

39,327​

Harrison J

Amz P

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2023​

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Wolves

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31,639​

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Crystal Palace

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ITV

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Aston Villa

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39,284​

Sky S

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17​

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7.45pm

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FAC 3 Rep

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Crystal Palace

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1​

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37,796​

Gomes A

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27​

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3.00pm

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Luton

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1​

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37,713​

Harrison J

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Fulham

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24,376​

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Tottenham

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2​

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39,321​

Harrison J Branthwaite J

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Feb

10​

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Man City

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2​

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19​

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Crystal Palace

D

1​

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1​

17

38,164​

Onana A

Sky S

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Brighton

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1​

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1​

17

31,646​

Branthwaite J

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2​

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3.00pm

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West Ham

L

1​

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3​

16

39,262​

Beto

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Mar

9​

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12.30pm

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Man Utd

L

0​

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2​

16

73,601​

TNT S

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Bournemouth

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16

11,207​

Beto

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2​

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7.30pm

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Newcastle

D

1​

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1​

16

52,135​

Calvert-Lewin D (pen)

TNT S

There is our wonderful manager winning 1 game in 17, in all comps.

 

[Chrismac]

That's hardly plenty of context, acknowledging we had our starting midfield out VS Wolves at the end of a jading Xmas fixture list - your making my argument for me here and drawing against Palace (we took 4pts of them) and Brighton away.

Oh and sorry nose picking - important to get that in there or the argument would have been lost. lol

Wont be storming the Bastille any time soon.

Our starting midfield was McNeil Onana Garner Harrison which at the time was our starting midfield, not Gana nor Young.. the missing starter was Doucs, instead of bringing in a midfielder like Gomes to play behind Dom he went with 3 centre halfs, and Wolves ripped us in bits.
A home draw (scoring late to get that draw) to a team that were on that bad a run they sacked their manager, that team we had already beaten twice, and playing from the 1st minute trying to contain them rather than the other way around isn't backing up your argument.
Conceding a late equaliser against 10 men when he didn't have the balls to try and kill the game off isn't backing up your argument.
Yeah and the sight of him standing on the touchline picking his nose and rubbing his brow, along with the turgid pressers were he blames every man and his dog but never himself, all makes up the context of the dinosaur.

 

[windymiller]

But that's not fans just having a bad mentality. It's fans lowering expectations based on what has happened over the past few seasons. Fans are responding to what they have seen. It's not that fans don't want 'NSNO' mentality

Never said it wasn't and I put the blame squarely at the feet of the idiot who has driven this club into the ground, Farhad Moshiri. His reign follows that of the original lowerer of expectations, William Kenwright, who took a club, who within a decade of his stewardship had been competing for titles, European honours and FA cups, and asked us to be grateful if we finished in the top half. The original statement still stands, the fact that Forest and Burnley are amongst our most important games of the season shows how far we have fallen.

The fans have always believed in NSNO, it is successive owners that have failed to grasp the concept.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

But that was 6 games.

It wasnt 15 games.

Tue

Dec

19​

2023​

7.45pm

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LC QF

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Fulham

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1​

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38,715​

Beto (lost 6-7 on pens)

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Dec

23​

2023​

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Tottenham

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1​

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2​

16

61,808​

Gomes A

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27​

2023​

8.15pm

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Man City

L

1​

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3​

17

39,327​

Harrison J

Amz P

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Dec

30​

2023​

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Wolves

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31,639​

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Crystal Palace

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Aston Villa

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39,284​

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Crystal Palace

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1​

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37,796​

Gomes A

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Luton

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37,713​

Harrison J

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Fulham

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24,376​

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Tottenham

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18

39,321​

Harrison J Branthwaite J

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Feb

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Man City

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2​

18

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Crystal Palace

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Brighton

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Branthwaite J

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West Ham

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16

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Man Utd

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2​

16

73,601​

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Bournemouth

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16

11,207​

Beto

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2​

2024​

7.30pm

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Newcastle

D

1​

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1​

16

52,135​

Calvert-Lewin D (pen)

TNT S

There is our wonderful manager winning 1 game in 17, in all comps.

Yet we still have fans defending him Goat, absolutely baffling.

 

[neil999]

But that was 6 games.

It wasnt 15 games.

Tue

Dec

19​

​ 2023​

7.45pm

​

LC QF

H

Fulham

D

1​

-​

​ 1​

38,715​

Beto (lost 6-7 on pens)

Sat

Dec

23​

​ 2023​

3.00pm

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Prem

A

Tottenham

L

1​

-​

​ 2​

16

61,808​

Gomes A

Wed

Dec

27​

​ 2023​

8.15pm

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Prem

H

Man City

L

1​

-​

​ 3​

17

39,327​

Harrison J

Amz P

Sat

Dec

30​

​ 2023​

3.00pm

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A

Wolves

L

0​

-​

​ 3​

17

31,639​

Thu

Jan

4​

​ 2024​

8.00pm

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FAC 3

A

Crystal Palace

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0​

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24,489​

ITV

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14​

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Aston Villa

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0​

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17

39,284​

Sky S

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Jan

17​

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Crystal Palace

W

1​

-​

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37,796​

Gomes A

Sat

Jan

27​

​ 2024​

3.00pm

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FAC 4

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Luton

L

1​

-​

​ 2​

37,713​

Harrison J

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Fulham

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0​

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Tottenham

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18

39,321​

Harrison J Branthwaite J

TNT S

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Feb

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Man City

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Crystal Palace

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West Ham

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39,262​

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Man Utd

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Bournemouth

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11,207​

Beto

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But that was 6 games.

It wasnt 15 games.

Tue

Dec

19​

​ 2023​

7.45pm

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LC QF

H

Fulham

D

1​

-​

​ 1​

38,715​

Beto (lost 6-7 on pens)

Sat

Dec

23​

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3.00pm

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A

Tottenham

L

1​

-​

​ 2​

16

61,808​

Gomes A

Wed

Dec

27​

​ 2023​

8.15pm

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Man City

L

1​

-​

​ 3​

17

39,327​

Harrison J

Amz P

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Dec

30​

​ 2023​

3.00pm

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Wolves

L

0​

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17

31,639​

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4​

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A

Crystal Palace

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0​

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​ 0​

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14​

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Aston Villa

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0​

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17

39,284​

Sky S

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Jan

17​

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Crystal Palace

W

1​

-​

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37,796​

Gomes A

Sat

Jan

27​

​ 2024​

3.00pm

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FAC 4

H

Luton

L

1​

-​

​ 2​

37,713​

Harrison J

Tue

Jan

30​

​ 2024​

7.45pm

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Prem

A

Fulham

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0​

-​

​ 0​

18

24,376​

Sat

Feb

3​

​ 2024​

12.30pm

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Tottenham

D

2​

-​

​ 2​

18

39,321​

Harrison J Branthwaite J

TNT S

Sat

Feb

10​

​ 2024​

12.30pm

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A

Man City

L

0​

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​ 2​

18

52,187​

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19​

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8.00pm

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Crystal Palace

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1​

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17

38,164​

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24​

​ 2024​

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Brighton

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1​

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31,646​

Branthwaite J

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2​

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West Ham

L

1​

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​ 3​

16

39,262​

Beto

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Mar

9​

​ 2024​

12.30pm

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A

Man Utd

L

0​

-​

​ 2​

16

73,601​

TNT S

Sat

Mar

30​

​ 2024​

3.00pm

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A

Bournemouth

L

1​

-​

​ 2​

16

11,207​

Beto

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Apr

2​

​ 2024​

7.30pm

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A

Newcastle

D

1​

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​ 1​

16

52,135​

Calvert-Lewin D (pen)

TNT S

There is our wonderful manager winning 1 game in 17, in all comps.

I know he's not very good, but this stuff about the winless streak...would it have been better if he had spread out the wins lol he essentially has done the job asked of him and actually done better than last year, clearly the issue with him is se won't progress...think that's what needs to be the main point

 

[Goat]

Yet we still have fans defending him Goat, absolutely baffling.

A lot of our fans lay the blame on the players feet and thats fair, the squad isnt great, at all.

But I tend to think a good manager gets average players performing to a limit, Dyche isnt doing that.

Pickford, Tarks and Branners are pretty solid, but everybody else is playing massively under the level we have seen from them in the past.

Excellent managers get players playing way above their peak, Good managers get their peak, average managers get a performance most weeks, but rubbish managers, well points at Everton.

 

[Goat]

I know he's not very good, but this stuff about the winless streak...would it have been better if he had spread out the wins lol he essentially has done the job asked of him and actually done better than last year, clearly the issue with him is se won't progress...think that's what needs to be the main point

No thats fair Neil.

The 3 month winless peak really stands out, but if his goal was to keep us up comfortably, well hes very much on course for that.

My issue is that hes not a manager who motivates players, hes also a manager who plays for 0-0.

We drove Big Sam out of this club for taking us from 15th to 8th, I dont know why the whole fanbase isnt aligned with doing it with Dyche.

Well I do know, its certainly a different club now.

But anyway, I dont want him sacked, I want him to grab us a famous victory tonight, then I want him to win another on Saturday, then great stuff, well done Sean, go and enjoy your holiday, but please, dont come back in July.

 

[neil999]

No idea if he has anything to do with it, or pure luck, but our injury record has been pretty good this season

Dcls appearances this year are remarkable, although he has turned him terrible at the same time lol

 

[TimHowardsBeardJuice]

A lot of our fans lay the blame on the players feet and thats fair, the squad isnt great, at all.

But I tend to think a good manager gets average players performing to a limit, Dyche isnt doing that.

Pickford, Tarks and Branners are pretty solid, but everybody else is playing massively under the level we have seen from them in the past.

Excellent managers get players playing way above their peak, Good managers get their peak, average managers get a performance most weeks, but rubbish managers, well points at Everton.

Without disagreeing with your larger point, Mykolenko and Gana are playing better this season imo.

McNeil, Garner, DCL, Onana, Harrison, Godfrey all underperforming. Doucoure dropped off a cliff.

Patterson and Beto failing to make the strides you want from a young player.

Young shouldn’t be getting minutes at all but that’s a selection issue.