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2023/24 Sean Dyche

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We are playing Premier League football next season therefore Sean Dyche has done a good job for Everton, a job that I feel may not have happened if he had not been in charge. He would have been able to draw on his experience of fighting relegation battles in the past to help us. For that he deserves the utmost credit and the feat should be recognised. However it would appear the club is heading into another transformative year, it seems we will lose some players including Branthwaith to enable us to stave of another points deduction and have some money to refresh the squad. I don’t think Dyche is the best man to be in charge at this time. He will go for players that fit his well rehearsed system of being hard to beat and hard to watch, low scoring football. If Everton, because of the state the previous Board have left us, have no realistic chance of improving next year then Dyche is as good as anyone in a relegation battle, if Everton feel that becoming the new Burnley is the extent of our ambition then again Dyche is your man. I would like to see us trying to improve both in terms of results and in style, I believe that if he stays and is allowed to use whatever money is available this summer to buy his type of player then it just sets back any chance of improvement for another year and moves us closer to the inevitable drop.
 
What happened at Chelsea and what happened for nearly 4 months. Abd if we have a team and manager that tries and gives one, as you say, how come we never win when we concede first ??

There’s a few posters on here who’s ’go to' is zero wins in 14.

Why do you fully discount the 8 wins in 13 in our December and April fixtures?
 

Agree with the first two.
Whether you like it or not, it was a key appointment that Moshiri has gotten right. 2 pts deductions and a season of turmoil. He was evidently the perfect manager to deal with that.

And we beat the kopites for the first time in 14 years at home, 4 wins on the bounce now at home too.
 
Whether you like it or not, it was a key appointment that Moshiri has gotten right. 2 pts deductions and a season of turmoil. He was evidently the perfect manager to deal with that.

And we beat the kopites for the first time in 14 years at home, 4 wins on the bounce now at home too.
I understand your position.
But I disagree with it .
I am resigned to one more season of this ‘football’ in any case.
Next season is about saying goodbye to the best ground in the country and incidentally the district I was brought up in .
Just wish I would be able to enjoy the football more.
C’est la vie .
 
I understand your position.
But I disagree with it .
I am resigned to one more season of this ‘football’ in any case.
Next season is about saying goodbye to the best ground in the country and incidentally the district I was brought up in .
Just wish I would be able to enjoy the football more.
C’est la vie .
I mean you've gotten to see us beat our neighbours maybe for the last time there.
 

We are playing Premier League football next season therefore Sean Dyche has done a good job for Everton, a job that I feel may not have happened if he had not been in charge. He would have been able to draw on his experience of fighting relegation battles in the past to help us. For that he deserves the utmost credit and the feat should be recognised. However it would appear the club is heading into another transformative year, it seems we will lose some players including Branthwaith to enable us to stave of another points deduction and have some money to refresh the squad. I don’t think Dyche is the best man to be in charge at this time. He will go for players that fit his well rehearsed system of being hard to beat and hard to watch, low scoring football. If Everton, because of the state the previous Board have left us, have no realistic chance of improving next year then Dyche is as good as anyone in a relegation battle, if Everton feel that becoming the new Burnley is the extent of our ambition then again Dyche is your man. I would like to see us trying to improve both in terms of results and in style, I believe that if he stays and is allowed to use whatever money is available this summer to buy his type of player then it just sets back any chance of improvement for another year and moves us closer to the inevitable drop.
Pretty much my thoughts too. It's one thing to give him plaudits for keeping us up this year and another to say that he should be back next year. The latter does not necessarily follow from the former for me.

For precisely the reason you said: we have a massive rebuild coming up this summer. If he's the manager when we undertake that, then we'll end up rebuilding even further into his image. Is that the road we really want to go down? If we do, we'll be stuck with the outcome for years.

It's the reason I've generally been pretty anti-Dyche this season. I know all the details about the hardships he had to deal with that were out of his control. Fair play to him for overcoming all that, genuinely. Credit where it's due. I'm definitely not trying to be a downer after this week. Just looking at the bigger picture.

Because I also note that 7 of the 12 wins we have this season came in just 3 weeks total calendar time, and both runs of wins (4 in a row in 2 weeks, 3 in a row in 1 week) came soon after the points deductions, when there was something to rally around. Yes, the points count all the same, but how many years can we count on little runs like that to happen and bail us out of the months-long winless streaks? Doesn't seem sustainable to me.

But that's kind of what you're counting on with a manager whose football is long outdated and whose one big skill to his credit seems to be rallying a team strongly in short bursts.
 
That makes two good games since he has been here , the other being Brighton away.
Not enough for me I’m afraid.
But it’s all subjective anyway.
Neither of us is going to change our views on this.
Because we got 5 at brighton? We played exactly how we always play at brighton, it just happened to work really really well that day
 

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