2023/24 Sean Dyche

[MikeH72]

We’d never win another derby ever again whilst Howe was Everton manager. His record is terrible against them.

We don’t win them anyway and certainly won’t under this career loser.

 

[Blue Smoke]

Howe did incredibly well getting what was a very average squad, playing properly when he joined.

 

[Toffeepot]

The time we went from a club that should expect mid table to a club that should expect a relegation fight is under benitez when he binned off what creativity we had and sent us spiraling
Since then managers more or less say 'it was like this when I got here' or 'what do fans expect?'
The fact we have been reduced to this so rapidly in the end is due to a slow acceptance of lowered expectations over kenwrights tenure.
I do think this is a tough yet lucrative gig for dyche and it isn't all his fault but he still needs to sort it
I personally would prefer new chair and owner before we change manager again

 

[MikeH72]

Howe did incredibly well getting what was a very average squad, playing properly when he joined.

Made Almiron look like a world beater, a player that absolutely nobody on here wanted when he was linked with us. But apparently managers aren’t capable of improving players.

 

[Blue peter]

There are still over 100 points to play for and 9 months of the season to go.

A bit early for panic.

I think that if Beto had been available against Fulham and Wolves we would have had something from both games.

The manager has to work with the players made available to him, when players are signed is out of his control

Not panic from me mate, just more concern given we have 1 point from 4 games having played Wolves and Fulham at home.

 

[Joewood1889]

Made Almiron look like a world beater, a player that absolutely nobody on here wanted when he was linked with us. But apparently managers aren’t capable of improving players.

Similar to what De Zerbi has done at Brighton with the likes of Lewis Dunk and Pascal Gross relegation standard players a few years ago. A good coach makes players better

 

[Blue Smoke]

Players improve when the basic tactics and formations are set. I don't think any of our players really know what they are doing.
Dyche worries me in that he seems incapable of noticing or addressing some very basic problems we have..very narrow defending which allows acres of space and time for opposition wingers and full backs to operate in, and this incredible tactic of putting all our outfield Players into the six yard box on opposition corners and free kicks. Those two elements are completely down to what dyche tells the players to do.

 

[Joewood1889]

Players improve when the basic tactics and formations are set. I don't think any of our players really know what they are doing.
Dyche worries me in that he seems incapable of noticing or addressing some very basic problems we have..very narrow defending which allows acres of space and time for opposition wingers and full backs to operate in, and this incredible tactic of putting all our outfield Players into the six yard box on opposition corners and free kicks. Those two elements are completely down to what dyche tells the players to do.

The fact that this happens every week and he still won’t change and tweak the system is unbelievable. Makes players look a lot worse than what they actually are

 

[Blue peter]

I like Eddie Howe and championed him as an Everton manager during his time at Bournemouth - unpopular as that was. But Eddie has mega-rich Newcastle two points clear of Sean Dyche's impoverished Everton. If he couldn't cut it medium-term at Newcastle with all the advantages he has, what makes anyone think he could make a fist of an Everton without a pot to piss in?

To be fair, this is not a dig at Eddie. He might have made a great Everton manager had he been appointed in 2016-2018. The point is people need to start accepting that it is not the manager where the real problem at Everton exists. Until Kenwright and his malign self-serving culture is purged and new ownership emerges, every manager - i.e., mudguard - is here to absorb the flak for the grotesque mismanagement of the club at board level. Sacking managers in this enviroment - when nothing has changed - is like rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic. You can have the swankiest, best-appointed deckchair on the ship, but that ship is still sinking. All a matter of time.

Bit confused about your point on Eddie Howe - he had performing out of their skin in his first season by getting them up the table, and got them champions league well ahead of their schedule last season, his first four games this season, have been relatively difficult. He‘s generally performed beyond expectation for them….I’m sure they’ll soon start getting results.

Agree to an extent with your second paragraph, but just because the owner/board is an issue, it doesn’t mean that the manager is not under performing also. My other concern, is even if we gave him another say, six games and was say, four points adrift of safety, even if they sack him, I don’t trust them to appoint a good manager. We seem to be caught between the devil and deep blue sea, because of the chronic mis management of the club from the top down.

 

[Calvin]

And the problem of the gap between the midfield and defence and the balance, lack of, in central midfield. Which in my opinion is the major problem the team has at the moment.

 

[9LeagueTitles5FACups]

I'd like Urs Fischer, the Union Berlin manager. However, would he leave them for us when they've got Champions League football and we are fighting for our lives?

 

[cantlivewithem]

We argue that Dyche is crap for because he got Burnley relegated but Howe got Bournemouth relegated yet we think he is going to be an improvement. We think he has done a great job at Newcastle yet he will be fired from there soon for not doing a good enough job. Dyche for me is far more stable a manager than Howe. For the next couple of season until the stadium is up and running and we know where we are at and have a platform to build from, I would rather keep Dyche. There is too much uncertainty about the future and consequences of poor decisions made in the past that we are still dealing with at the moment. No manager would look good here at present. I would rather Dyche steers the ship for the time being at least

 

[Toffe3m4n]

This international break has come at a good time for us really. Get the squad that remains together and get to work on actually coaching them now. Dyche has got to earn his corn here.

 

[Blue Smoke]

This international break has come at a good time for us really. Get the squad that remains together and get to work on actually coaching them now. Dyche has got to earn his corn here.

He's had more than enough time to "get to work on actually coaching them"

 

[Blue Smoke]

He gets the time to come into a struggling team threatened with relegation and steer us clear just like Frank did. But then you have to push on.
In my honest opinion, this team should be playing better than what its showing. I don't see how teams like Forest, Bournemouth and Palace should be doing better than us with their squads.