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2023/24 Sean Dyche

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GrandOldTeam said:
In my opinion;

- He shouldn't be starting Keane ahead of Branthwaite.
- What is Onana's role in the team? Whatever it is, it's not working and I'm inclined to think it's on Dyche because I can't for the life of me work out what role he has.
- Garner should be centre mid.
- Doucoure isn't a number 10, just pack that in.

I also find it baffling how often he says players are still getting fit and sharp - the other day he was saying it of Branthwaite - the lad was playing vs Stoke in pre-season a month ago.
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The Michael Keane is bigger than just him playing; it’s the message it sends to everyone else in the squad

Here is a player that was shoehorned in after Coady made 2 mins takes in 2 games. This guy then proceeded to be part of a team that went on to pick up 4 points from 21

After a number of high profile mistakes that almost cost us our status, he was eventually dropped; but this only came following a lot of questions from the media.

He has now been chosen as our starting CB this season.

That is an appalling message to the rest of the squad
 
For me, it's pretty simple: if he plays Keane again, with the exception of absolute necessity, I'm done with him. Keane seems a really nice lad and probably good for morale but this is 100% a results industry. Keane has failed to deliver time and time again. It's a shame because he was good that first year he came here then has gone downhill every single year since.

But this isn't about Keane, this is about Dyche. And I know there are a ton of people who say "we don't see what the gaffer sees in training every single day". It's the same with Phil fn Neville, Gylfi fn Sigurdsson and COUNTLESS others. I don't care, in the SLIGHTEST, what they do in training if the results on the pitch are like they are yesterday.
 
He is going to get himself done before October if he carries on with Keane, look at the stats all the details and we are a significantly worse side with him in the lineup.

- Onana am not sure what he's asking him to do.
- Garner is (at this time) our most technical midfielder, he needs to not be played wide.
- Gana being deployed anywhere feels mental again to me.

Dyche totally earned the right to continue, but he is making mental decisions. Some of it is forced by the club and their complete incompetence, but he totally isn't without blame.
 
windymiller said:
He's averaged approximately 1 goal per game over his managerial career. If you look at his top flight record, it is less than 1 goal per game. Why he is so revered by some on here is beyond me. How he is on the salary he is on is beyond me. After Burnley, nobody (except us, obviously) would touch him with a barge pole. He's a modern day Joe Kinnear.
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Yeah that 1.19 goals per game over the course of 400 games is beyond embarrassing.

Imagine putting that into a team that doesn’t score, I wonder what the outcome would be. With the exception of Brighton last year it would have been 14 goals in 18 matches.

People love the idea of safety, and that’s what Sean Dyche perceives for them.
 

nsno-chris said:
His time at Burnley has been massively overstated by the masses. I have no idea what people watched when he was at Burnely but it was clearly a different team to me

Oh I forgot, he got them into Europe once by scoring 36 goals
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He’s a classic media creation. All buzz words and cliches.

Relegated Burnley twice and nearly relegated us too. Will probably finish the job this season if he is allowed.
 
roy vernon said:
I wasn't happy with this appointment at all, however, I did think that he would at least bring organisation, fitness and 100% effort. Those were all the quintessential ingredients of a Sean Dyche team. On that basis I was happy to give him the benefit of the doubt as I thought he would keep us ticking over until Bramley Moore, and Moshiri s inevitable sale of the club, at which time we could re-boot, still as a premier league team.

With hindsight, I don't believe that will happen, the defence is even more shambolic than it was under Benitez and Lampard and his insistence on playing his teachers pet week after week smacks of stubbornness. It also appears that nobody is sure what their role is and as far as 100% effort goes, they didn't look remotely interested for the most part yesterday.

What the solution is, God alone knows, even if we could persuade a decent coach to come here, we just don't currently have the resources to back him. I guess it's either line someone up in the next 2 days, bring him in, sell Onana and Gray and give the new man the money to spend before September, or cross our fingers that Dyche keeps us up. So I guess on the good ship Everton, that means waste the few bob we have on Evans and bury our heads in the sand.
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As soon as he saved us we should have been in for Harry Potter....
 
chazzle_dazzle said:
He is going to get himself done before October if he carries on with Keane, look at the stats all the details and we are a significantly worse side with him in the lineup.

- Onana am not sure what he's asking him to do.
- Garner is (at this time) our most technical midfielder, he needs to not be played wide.
- Gana being deployed anywhere feels mental again to me.

Dyche totally earned the right to continue, but he is making mental decisions. Some of it is forced by the club and their complete incompetence, but he totally isn't without blame.
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Dyche, Keane, Maupay...OUT!!!
 
nsno-chris said:
The Michael Keane is bigger than just him playing; it’s the message it sends to everyone else in the squad

Here is a player that was shoehorned in after Coady made 2 mins takes in 2 games. This guy then proceeded to be part of a team that went on to pick up 4 points from 21

After a number of high profile mistakes that almost cost us our status, he was eventually dropped; but this only came following a lot of questions from the media.

He has now been chosen as our starting CB this season.

That is an appalling message to the rest of the squad
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Notice the Keane ideology left out of most pre season friendlies to give us hope .... he was on his way out of the club .... Kidology by Dyche - both need to go now ....
 

Liking this thread now because it’s all true. He’s a garbage manager and always was. The appointment was guttering at the time and now we are stuck with him and his management book guff he spews.

Part of me hopes he picks Keane and Maupay at the weekend for the fume on here. Plus it might quicken his departure (though I doubt it). Where we go from there I have no idea but at least it won’t be with him.
 
Find it interesting that people think Iwobi, Gana and Doucoure are poor yet Onana escapes criticism because he’s somehow being used in the wrong way. At least the first three actually get involved in the game and want the ball, they don’t go missing.
Not been Garner’s biggest fan but he’s no winger, luckily we will have actual wingers to play there soon, and get Garner into the middle to actually get on the ball.
 
chippy1722 said:
Find it interesting that people think Iwobi, Gana and Doucoure are poor yet Onana escapes criticism because he’s somehow being used in the wrong way. At least the first three actually get involved in the game and want the ball, they don’t go missing.
Not been Garner’s biggest fan but he’s no winger, luckily we will have actual wingers to play there soon, and get Garner into the middle to actually get on the ball.
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Onana thread is full of criticism.
 

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