I hate having Sean Dyche as manager. I think he’s a rubbish manager and will relegate us.
That feels better, thank you for encouraging me to get that off my chest mate.
I hate having Sean Dyche as manager. I think he’s a rubbish manager and will relegate us.
That feels better, thank you for encouraging me to get that off my chest mate.
windymiller
Player Valuation: £50m
We have an almost entirely different first team to three years ago. It's not the same players. I'm not denying that our recruitment has been dreadful but it's disingenuous to suggest that the managers haven't been involved in those recruitment decisions.
Nah, not having the excuses made for him. Over 38 games and we're on a hiding to nothing, striker or not. Even without a big man to hoof to we've allegedly been unlucky, but statistically we've been unlucky to not concede more at the same time. Even in the 1-5 last season Brighton had better xG (and other stats) than usThat's poor management and team organisation, that's nothing about having a striker.
It also shows us that he's won 6 in 23. Over 38 games = easy relegation. In fact, funnily enough, we were on that exact same route last year
The dude is managing the skip fire by pouring fresh gasoline into it and wondering why it's not extinguishing mate. Unless we go on an absolutely miraculous 10 game winning run he'll finish the season/year/his tenure by being either statistically worse or as bad as Frank Lampard at this rate. The most hated manager we've had not named Rafael.
As much as I hate the phrase - anyone can do it if they've got the best players. He got hired to get the best out of limited players and funds (as is his reputation) and he's doing a bad job at it.
He was also touted as defensive minded, which I can't say is true based on the fact we're leaking goals (and before the excuses come in - 2 out of our 3 defenders are his old players, he knows them, he knows how they play; he let the rest go
E: Our full backs have been fit, bar 1, for a long time now. Tactically he has no idea how to use a full back if his life depended on it, unless it's a flat 4.
The having is irrelevant a chara, as a mere contributor rather then the protaginset of the debate, that need is not one that needs to be sated!
I don't understand what you are saying in the first paragraph here, "over 38 games" we are on a hiding to nothing - with a striker....how do you know this. Its opinion not fact. Brighton had a higher XG - great - thats not reality.
6 wins in 23 is 18 points, without a centre forward - in 23 - how many in the 23 are draws on average within that - that has comfortably us safe - thanks for providing that stat.
The managing of the skip fire is systemic, part of the systemic disfunction of the club and specifically the footballing dept has been a lack of consistency, coherence, long term development and sustainability of the management team - a new manager every six months, a new investment made, some players are winners some are losers, the whol cycle begins again - all the time incrementally dropping lower and lower - that is the true gasoline on the skip fire and this is what you are suggesting in the progressive step. Definitely not, its stupid continuing doing what has gotten us here.
The dude was hired to get the to get the best out of limited players and funds - mission accomplished if we look around we are premier league team kept up somehow by a manager with no centre forward for his run and in the end no full backs - for my money we were the worst team to ever stay up and only did so because of the manager doing exactly - getting the best out of limited players and funds. Transforming the worst team ever to stay up, is a process not event - weve started the season with injury crisis and in his first game and half of having a fit Centre forward we have gotten two results. We and he have more pieces of the puzzle to come back and improve.
Ultimately you are trying to predict the future here - he has already succeeded is what many (if i remember correctly) thought was a lost cause when he came in - he for the first time this week got a centre forward and we have more players to come.
Lets be honest from day 1 you werent a fan so without any objective evidence your mind is made up - there's no point making stats now to predict the future, own the opinion, its not objective as you were against before he took one game - but thats fine - you arent a fan. When things arent going well you'l stick the boot in - but there is plenty of context to what's going on and a lot of evidence of what you wish isn't in the best interests of the club - its how we got here. The skipfire has been buring for a while, if only changing the manager would discernably change that - i think we are the perfect of example of how changing managers repeatedly leads us to pass, lets not repeat the same mistake.
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One point out of 12 should always put an Everton manager under pressure. 
How many of the Dyche haters, hated every other manger in the last 20 years.
The Moyes isn’t good enough etc.
Is it possible to have a thread for the whiners. As every club looks at our club and laughs. Not just because of the board. But our own fans readiness to find any excuse not to support any individual within the club. Whether that players or managers.
The Moyes isn’t good enough etc.
Is it possible to have a thread for the whiners. As every club looks at our club and laughs. Not just because of the board. But our own fans readiness to find any excuse not to support any individual within the club. Whether that players or managers.
Runub
Player Valuation: £50m
Seems to be the norm now. I wonder if that is why we are changing manager so often these daysOne point out of 12 should always put an Everton manager under pressure.
Bluedyhell
Player Valuation: £750k
How the hell did you find the time to type all that? No one is gonna read it mateThe having is irrelevant a chara, as a mere contributor rather then the protaginset of the debate, that need is not one that needs to be sated!
I don't understand what you are saying in the first paragraph here, "over 38 games" we are on a hiding to nothing - with a striker....how do you know this. Its opinion not fact. Brighton had a higher XG - great - thats not reality.
6 wins is 18 points, without a centre forward - in 23 - how many in the 23 are draws on average within that - that has comfortably us safe - thanks for providing that stat.
The managing of the skip fire is systemic, part of the systemic disfunction of the club and specifically the footballing dept has been a lack of consistency, coherence, long term devilment and sustainability of the management team - a new manager every six months, a new investment made, some players are winners some are losers - all them time incrementally dropping lower and lower - that is the true gasoline on the skip fire and this is what you are suggesting in the progressive step. Definitely not, its stupid continuing doing what has gotten us here.
The dude was hired to get the to get the best out of limited players and funds - mission accomplished if we look around we are premier league team kept up somehow by a manager with no centre forward for his run and in the end no full backs - for my money we were the worst team to ever stay up and only did so because of the manager doing exactly - getting the best out of limited players and funds. Transforming the worst team ever to stay up, is a process not event - weve started the season with injury crisis and in his first game and half of having a fit Centre forward we have gotten two results. We and he have more pieces of the puzzle to come back and improve.
Ultimately you are trying to predict the future here - he has already succeeded is what many (if i remember correctly) thought was a lost cause when he came in - he for the first time this week got a centre forward and we have more players to come.
Lets be honest from day 1 you werent a fan so without any objective evidence your mind as made up - there's no point making stats now to predict the future, own the opinion, its not objective as you were against before he took one game - but thats fine - you arent a fan. When things arent going well you'l stick the boot in - but there is plenty of context to what's going on and a lot of evidence of what you wish isn't in the best interests of the club - its how we got here. The skipfire has been buring for a while, if only changing the manager would discernably change that - i think we are the perfect of example of how changing managers repeatedly leads us to pass, lets not repeat the same mistake.
windymiller
Player Valuation: £50m
Hang on, according to you Dyche is a good, effective manager, Thelwell did a good job with recruitment and so we therefore must have some good players. How is it a "skipfire" if everyone involved in the playing side is doing well?The having is irrelevant a chara, as a mere contributor rather then the protaginset of the debate, that need is not one that needs to be sated!
I don't understand what you are saying in the first paragraph here, "over 38 games" we are on a hiding to nothing - with a striker....how do you know this. Its opinion not fact. Brighton had a higher XG - great - thats not reality.
6 wins in 23 is 18 points, without a centre forward - in 23 - how many in the 23 are draws on average within that - that has comfortably us safe - thanks for providing that stat.
The managing of the skip fire is systemic, part of the systemic disfunction of the club and specifically the footballing dept has been a lack of consistency, coherence, long term devilment and sustainability of the management team - a new manager every six months, a new investment made, some players are winners some are losers - all them time incrementally dropping lower and lower - that is the true gasoline on the skip fire and this is what you are suggesting in the progressive step. Definitely not, its stupid continuing doing what has gotten us here.
The dude was hired to get the to get the best out of limited players and funds - mission accomplished if we look around we are premier league team kept up somehow by a manager with no centre forward for his run and in the end no full backs - for my money we were the worst team to ever stay up and only did so because of the manager doing exactly - getting the best out of limited players and funds. Transforming the worst team ever to stay up, is a process not event - weve started the season with injury crisis and in his first game and half of having a fit Centre forward we have gotten two results. We and he have more pieces of the puzzle to come back and improve.
Ultimately you are trying to predict the future here - he has already succeeded is what many (if i remember correctly) thought was a lost cause when he came in - he for the first time this week got a centre forward and we have more players to come.
Lets be honest from day 1 you werent a fan so without any objective evidence your mind as made up - there's no point making stats now to predict the future, own the opinion, its not objective as you were against before he took one game - but thats fine - you arent a fan. When things arent going well you'l stick the boot in - but there is plenty of context to what's going on and a lot of evidence of what you wish isn't in the best interests of the club - its how we got here. The skipfire has been buring for a while, if only changing the manager would discernably change that - i think we are the perfect of example of how changing managers repeatedly leads us to pass, lets not repeat the same mistake.
How the hell did you find the time to type all that? No one is gonna read it mate
Hopefully,
took about 4 mins to be honest - also watching Tenet. 
Giraffe_Baker
Player Valuation: £750k
And you'll absolve 'Chairman Bill' and Moshiri because you've been told not to have banners with "Grant and Sharpy's" name on them by 'the biggest blue of them all'.
brieverton
Player Valuation: £40m
Vincenzo Italiano
Adi Hutter
Pepe Bordelas
Bruno Genesio
Despite our state I think we'd attract any of them.
Adi Hutter
Pepe Bordelas
Bruno Genesio
Despite our state I think we'd attract any of them.
So what manager should we have?
Easy to say he is crap, but follow it up with a better suggestion. Otherwise you just look silly.
windymiller
Player Valuation: £50m
What are you on about? You know it's possible to think "Chairman Bill", Moshiri AND Dyche are doing a bad job? They are not mutually exclusive concepts.
