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2024/25 Sean Dyche

I mean that's a good point. That's not where I'm coming from however.

Two wrongs don't make a right. You can't keep a 💩 manager in place just because you had already sacked a 💩 manager before, and before that, and before that.
Generally have to sack crap managers, last 3 have all been wrong appointments, only way to stop the cycle is to get better at recruiting managers.

I think some are obssessed by this notion that every manager that comes in has to stay for 10 or 15 years like Moyes, very rarely does that happen these days, the average time in the job by PL managers is just over 2 years....
 
Just so i understand the master plan is:

Just pick a good manager!

That it - what are an almost £200 mill organisation missing here when the answer was in this thread all along.

You'd think they might have asked that question at an interview - are you a good manager, yes or no.
IF Thelwell has anything about him he should have a succession plan, coaches that match his own philosophy, if he doesn`t I don`t think he is doing his job.

IF Thelwell still thinks Dyche is the right man then Thelwell is part of the bigger problem.
 

Just so i understand the master plan is:

Just pick a good manager!

That it - what are an almost £200 mill organisation missing here when the answer was in this thread all along.

You'd think they might have asked that question at an interview - are you a good manager, yes or no.

You're being deliberately obtuse.

Let's see what club has sacked managers. Man U. ☑️Arsenal ☑️ Chelsea ☑️ Liverpool ☑️ Man City ☑️ West Ham ☑️ Forest ☑️ Newcastle ☑️ Tottenham ☑️

Do I need to go on?
 
The issue is compounded by mid-table teams such as Bournemouth and Brentford having excellent coaches. Long gone are the days where the likes of Steve Bruce, Alan Pardew, Peter Reid, Alan Curbishley, Sam Allardyce etc managed good Premier League teams. I can't see any teams stopping off at a half way house following a heavy away defeat and getting smashed to bits for team bonding! Obviously, the good old days but football is a different game now. It's far more technical and tactical and coaches like Dyche are being exposed more and more in my view. How many other managers would chuck a centre back upfront instead of a recognised premier league centre forward in 2024?
 
You're being deliberately obtuse.

Let's see what club has sacked managers. Man U. ☑️Arsenal ☑️ Chelsea ☑️ Liverpool ☑️ Man City ☑️ West Ham ☑️ Forest ☑️ Newcastle ☑️ Tottenham ☑️

Do I need to go on?

Every club in world football has sacked a manager mate - I don’t see the point.

Point of order though Mordor haven’t sacked a manager in almost a decade, City either. Arsenal half a decade.
 

Behave yourself.

I wasn't going to bother replying but yeah lots of clubs, Chelsea absolutely. Even a successful Chelsea.

Meanwhile TFG also sack managers.
But that and spending has led us and forest to PSR trouble. All of the others can sack managers with relatively little consequence. We've been circling the drain for 3 seasons
 
But that and spending has led us and forest to PSR trouble. All of the others can sack managers with relatively little consequence. We've been circling the drain for 3 seasons

I know this thread is often just a vent thread.

But I think the PSR position is an important point, Lampard and Benitez & staff cost us 10-12 mill in compensation on them being sacked and in the same PSR year.

If sacking Dyche and staff cost us the same id worry about our compliance. Think the margins are that tight.
 
Just so i understand the master plan is:

Just pick a good manager!

That it - what are an almost £200 mill organisation missing here when the answer was in this thread all along.

You'd think they might have asked that question at an interview - are you a good manager, yes or no.
The answer is that standing still often means going backwards in football.

Failing to grasp this has been Everton's problem for a very, very long time.
 

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