Priding yourself on clean sheets and not attempting to win games are not the same thing though are they? I mean quite how we can say trying to keep clean sheets is a bad thing I don't really know, but that's where we're at I suppose. The post I was responding to is an example of what i'm talking about (fairly obviously really), this whole idea of us never trying to attack and the full backs never crossing the halfway line is just not true. We do try to attack but we're rubbish at it. Much of that - although by no means all of it - is obviously down to the tactics and coaching, but it's daft when people make out we haven't tried to win games or the only reason the full backs don't get assists is because they aren't allowed to leave their own box. We're not exactly all out attack obviously but we're nowhere near as conservative as people make out - we're just really bad in an attacking sense.