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2024/25 Sean Dyche

We picking and choosing records? First time a manager has kept a team in the league with not one pts deduction but two. Was 1 way away from equalling a home win record not been achieved since 2019. 4th best defence in the league last season. 48 pts, our best in years. But that was all 'luck' to you guys.
They’re not records Ste
 
We picking and choosing records? First time a manager has kept a team in the league with not one pts deduction but two. Was 1 way away from equalling a home win record not been achieved since 2019. 4th best defence in the league last season. 48 pts, our best in years. But that was all 'luck' to you guys.

Woooowwwwww a record that’s stood for… 5 YEARS!!! And he didn’t even equal it! What an absolute genius.

48 points, our best tally in… *checks notes* oh, 2 seasons. Some record that.

The only person picking and choosing records is you, because you’re picking ones that he hasn’t even got.
 
If and when he eventually goes he's the sort to be on talksport with jim white and simon jordan within 24 hours absolutely slaughtering the club and saying results had nothing to do with him.
He did the job needed last year. He looks sunk without one player now.
It might be advisable to pull the plug as early as possible. The season Burnley got relegated they left him in charge to long and the new manager almost kept them up.
As usual with Everton its a bit of a head scratcher. I wasnt fully against him but he lost a lot of me with Bournemouth. That game just rammed home how awful he is away from plan A fits all. As bad in game management as ive ever seen.
Tough call. Do we pull that plug now. This has a very different vibe to last year.
 
I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

I don't think Moshiri and his board, the DoF or anyone else at the club will worry one iota about what the fans think. QED The record winless run last season. The place got pretty toxic then, there were huge amounts of people calling for Dyche's head, and what happened? Nowt, and we stayed up.

Even if Kev T grew a pair and asked Moshiri or the board for authority to replace Dyche, I genuinely doubt he'd get permission; BUT he must start making a list of possible replacements for the sake of the club. TBF, he probably already has done.

As for the football, I agree, but we all knew what we were going to get when he was hired. He's not a technical specialist, he is a nuts and bolts, work harder and get fitter, work on the basics etc.

Personally I don't give a hoot what Dyche does as long as it keeps Everton in the Prem. Once we stay up and get to BMD, with new ownership hopefully, then we should dismiss him immediately with our thanks; if he hasn't already been asked to go by then...

I'm not getting on his back too much, as you've got to put things in perspective. We haven't got out first string defence playing. He's trying to work out the best midfield, and playing Tim has been refreshing - though please hook Tim when his legs go Sean...

The thing which sticks in my craw, is his insistence in playing McNeil ALL the flippin' time, even shoving him to #10, when he isn't and never will be a #10! He has NDiaye who is an AM, #10 or LWF, he's got Lindstrøm who is a #10, and we still haven't got a RM/WF yet!

I understand him playing Harrison in the RW/F, but I think that is to help strengthen the RHS defensively than adding anything to the attack.

Just my opinion, and as they say we've all got one of them and a .... 😏

everton never ever have a back up plan

IF he was to sacked and not by the new owners which to me is why he’s not getting sacked by the current ones

we would then do a list 🙄

“what managers have managed in the prem”
 

Bilbao played a terrible first half tonight away against a promoted team, could have been down 1 or 2:0,but was 0:0.

Valverde subbed the weakest player tonight who was Nico Williams at HT, switched from 4231 to 442. First 10 min nothing happened, 3 more subs around min 57. Didn't work out till min 65m with the 1:0, 2nd shot on target and scored. Won the game comfortably 2:0, Inaki who came in scored, another subbed on player assisted the 1:0.

They had the best chance by a post of our own defender + a ruled of set piece goal only in the 2nd half. Taking 5 subs at 0:0 within 63 mins is a risk, always a red or injury can happen. But Dyche ingame management exists.

Our manager is paid more than Dyche tho.
Dyche doesn’t even do out of game management much less in game adjustments. Same tired tactics, formation, and team every week. Preparing for us has to be the easiest job ever. There’s no guessing what will or won’t be happening.
 
Dyche doesn’t even do out of game management much less in game adjustments. Same tired tactics, formation, and team every week. Preparing for us has to be the easiest job ever. There’s no guessing what will or won’t be happening.

Jep, but it's also why I don't want Bielsa here. The same problem despite attractive football. They both have stubbornness in their own way.
 
Mate it's been about Dyche for a long time for some people. He wasn't 'good' to them when he was doing well. They were waiting in the wings to turn sour
I’ll be honest , I knew I didn’t like his defeatist football before he arrived .
I had no respect for his tactical ability , and have even less now.
He has lived down to every negative thought I had on him.
On Tuesday I sat and watched one of the worst matches I have witnessed involving Everton .
Two terrible teams .
But we still gave up the tactical initiative to a poor Soton side.
The only game that rivals it for sheer tedium is Allardyce’s Everton v Benitez’ Barcodes when Walcott scored a surprising winner.
I’ve been going to the game since the 60’s
And I have only missed 5 home matches since ‘75 , so I have a lot matches to compare.
If he had come here and proved me wrong I would have been happy , because like everyone else it’s Everton that matters above the managers or players.
But he hasn’t , he has performed as I expected , very poorly.
So yeah I’m out of the ‘wings’ now because I believe his continued presence is now a clear and present danger to our future.
 
everton never ever have a back up plan

IF he was to sacked and not by the new owners which to me is why he’s not getting sacked by the current ones

we would then do a list 🙄

“what managers have managed in the prem”
You're preaching to the converted Matty 😇

The current 'senior management' will not in my opinion sack Dyche as, to them, he has demonstrated that he can get enough results over the season, to keep Everton up (and boo-yah-shucks to the poor paying fans and their football enjoyment!)

Until the prospective new owner(s) buy the club, why would the Mosh let them force him to sack someone who has kept his investment in the A+ EPL for money and income (TV and exposure etc)

Why will no-one put aside confirmation bias, rational hatred of his tactics and selections and all the other annoying things he does, and actually objectively look at the big picture...

We have enough money (I.e. cash now) to finish building the stadium, however, it has been widely reported that circa £50mn+ is required for the full fit out.

Mosh does not want to throw any more dirty money (allegedly) after laundered money (allegedly) in paying off the 3 Stooges.

Until, and only when, someone actually takes the keys to castle will Dyche be under threat (UNLESS it is looking like relegation is very probable) I.e. January and we're in the poop as per usual..
 

I’ll be honest , I knew I didn’t like his defeatist football before he arrived .
I had no respect for his tactical ability , and have even less now.
He has lived down to every negative thought I had on him.
On Monday I sat and watched one of the worst matches I have witnessed involving Everton .
Two terrible teams .
But we still gave up the tactical initiative to a poor Soton side.
The only game that rivals it for sheer tedium is Allardyce’s Everton v Benitez’ Barcodes when Walcott scored a surprising winner.
I’ve been going to the game since the 60’s
And I have only missed 5 home matches since ‘75 , so I have a lot matches to compare.
If he had come here and proved me wrong I would have been happy , because like everyone else it’s Everton that matters above the managers or players.
But he hasn’t , he has performed as I expected , very poorly.
So yeah I’m out of the ‘wings’ now because I believe his continued presence is now a clear and present danger to our future.
What was the most exciting part on Tuesday; was it the 10 players behind a ball for 93 minutes with no intention of winning the game

Or the fella hitting the bar at half time
 
Bilbao played a terrible first half tonight away against a promoted team, could have been down 1 or 2:0,but was 0:0.

Valverde subbed the weakest player tonight who was Nico Williams at HT, switched from 4231 to 442. First 10 min nothing happened, 3 more subs around min 57. Didn't work out till min 65m with the 1:0, 2nd shot on target and scored. Won the game comfortably 2:0, Inaki who came in scored, another subbed on player assisted the 1:0.

They had the best chance by a post of our own defender + a ruled of set piece goal only in the 2nd half. Taking 5 subs at 0:0 within 63 mins is a risk, always a red or injury can happen. But Dyche ingame management exists.

Our manager is paid more than Dyche tho.

Do you think Valverde would have liked to have taken a pay cut to manage Everton in January 2023? I think the fact Nico Williams is his weakest player and he has Inaki on the bench is hardly the same as choosing 2 from McNeil Iwobi and Gray is it?

Ancelotti makes some good subs for Real when he swaps out Vinicius and Mbappe and brings on Endryk and Rodrigo but he also found his options somewhat limited at Everton.
 
Dyche doesn’t even do out of game management much less in game adjustments. Same tired tactics, formation, and team every week. Preparing for us has to be the easiest job ever. There’s no guessing what will or won’t be happening.
Id imagine for a opposing manager that has to be a gift , so easy to anticipate and with us sitting back for the majority of the just unleash an onslaught of attacks and eventually the code will be cracked
 
You're preaching to the converted Matty 😇

The current 'senior management' will not in my opinion sack Dyche as, to them, he has demonstrated that he can get enough results over the season, to keep Everton up (and boo-yah-shucks to the poor paying fans and their football enjoyment!)

Until the prospective new owner(s) buy the club, why would the Mosh let them force him to sack someone who has kept his investment in the A+ EPL for money and income (TV and exposure etc)

Why will no-one put aside confirmation bias, rational hatred of his tactics and selections and all the other annoying things he does, and actually objectively look at the big picture...

We have enough money (I.e. cash now) to finish building the stadium, however, it has been widely reported that circa £50mn+ is required for the full fit out.

Mosh does not want to throw any more dirty money (allegedly) after laundered money (allegedly) in paying off the 3 Stooges.

Until, and only when, someone actually takes the keys to castle will Dyche be under threat (UNLESS it is looking like relegation is very probable) I.e. January and we're in the poop as per usual..

100000000% exactly you’ve
hit every point this is how it’s playing out
mate superb post

sadly as it is!
 
The most insulting defense of dyche is from two my friends who are also everton supporters comparing dyche's plight to howard kendall and that he just needs time to regain his footing 😆 which is insane romanticized nonsense. Kendall is on another level obviously
 

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