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2024/25 Sean Dyche

Saint Domingo said:
They were some of our best players, that’s why they were sold. They were the only ones that would go for any money. Name me some other wide players Everton had that went for 40 mill and 20 mill? Or another midfielder that would go for 50 mill?
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no they wasn't our best players at all.

Gordon was sold for big money because he's young and english and had good raw ability, and in hindsight it was a great signing for the horse punchers, but for us, he was average.

Iwobi was utter dog crap and getting what we did for him was insane.

Onana is a good player, and will thrive with a manager who isn't completely useless, but again HE WAS ON THE BENCH towards the end of the season

so again, for about 4th time, what best players have we sold that's impacted Dyches job??

the last time we sold " our best player" was when we sold Richy 2 years ago, pre-dyche.
 
GrandOldTeam said:
We won't be either when we have the likes of Mykolenko, Keane and Young in a back 4 as we have.
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Young and Mykolenko played quite a bit last season.

13 goals in 4 matches is not down to individuals, as much as many want to blame everything bad that happens on Keane (not you specifically).
 

Goodisongang said:
no they wasn't our best players at all.

Gordon was sold for big money because he's young and english and had good raw ability, and in hindsight it was a great signing for the horse punchers, but for us, he was average.

Iwobi was utter dog crap and getting what we did for him was insane.

Onana is a good player, and will thrive with a manager who isn't completely useless, but again HE WAS ON THE BENCH towards the end of the season

so again, for about 4th time, what best players have we sold that's impacted Dyches job??

the last time we sold " our best player" was when we sold Richy 2 years ago, pre-dyche.
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He benches Onana last season, team gets better. We start our season badly and all of a sudden ‘but but but we sold our best player’.. brilliant stuff.
 
Goodisongang said:
no they wasn't our best players at all.

Gordon was sold for big money because he's young and english and had good raw ability, and in hindsight it was a great signing for the horse punchers, but for us, he was average.

Iwobi was utter dog crap and getting what we did for him was insane.

Onana is a good player, and will thrive with a manager who isn't completely useless, but again HE WAS ON THE BENCH towards the end of the season

so again, for about 4th time, what best players have we sold that's impacted Dyches job??

the last time we sold " our best player" was when we sold Richy 2 years ago, pre-dyche.
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You clearly have no grip on reality.

Gordon and Onana are now valued at higher than 50 mill each, both will be pivotal to their national teams, both are starting for teams who expect to be in the top 4.

Meanwhile we have McNeil and Harrison who may never be internationals again, Garner who doesn’t have a full senior cap.

But you don’t think we’ve sold our better players recently?

Were playing a free signing in Ashley Young at full back whilst Ben Godfrey is playing champions league football at Atalanta

But you think we’ve not sold our better players?

You are a deluded agenda driven wind up merchant.
 
Saint Domingo said:
You clearly have no grip on reality.

Gordon and Onana are now valued at higher than 50 mill each, both will be pivotal to their national teams, both are starting for teams who expect to be in the top 4.

Meanwhile we have McNeil and Harrison who may never be internationals again, Garner who doesn’t have a full senior cap.

But you don’t think we’ve sold our better players recently?

Were playing a free signing in Ashley Young at full back whilst Ben Godfrey is playing champions league football at Atalanta

But you think we’ve not sold our better players?

You are a deluded agenda driven wind up merchant.
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Dyche played Young over Godfrey and deemed Godfrey surplus to requirements so I have no idea why you’re trying to use that one. Dyche is in fact the only reason Young has been anywhere near the football club to begin with.

Also you’ve banged on for years about how Michael Keane is a one man relegation machine who would send us down on his own, so how are you about to spin Dyche choosing to continue playing him ahead of other options?
 
Saint Domingo said:
You clearly have no grip on reality.

Gordon and Onana are now valued at higher than 50 mill each, both will be pivotal to their national teams, both are starting for teams who expect to be in the top 4.

Meanwhile we have McNeil and Harrison who may never be internationals again, Garner who doesn’t have a full senior cap.

But you don’t think we’ve sold our better players recently?

Were playing a free signing in Ashley Young at full back whilst Ben Godfrey is playing champions league football at Atalanta

But you think we’ve not sold our better players?

You are a deluded agenda driven wind up merchant.
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but again, when we sold them 2 players they werent our best players, i don't understand how you are having trouble with that

they might turn out to be great players, but that's irrelavent to what you are saying.

ben godfrey one of our best players now as well HAHAHAHAHAHHA he didnt play a minute apart from the burnley game in the first half of last season did he, another bang average crab. oh and btw, he's barely playing football mate never mind champions league footy, he's played abar half a game since he signed.
 

As a blue of many decades, I am ashamed by some of the abuse that has been direxted at Dyche and our own players.

They might be under performing, but it's not as if they aren't trying or aren't bothered.

And they are only human, as we saw with the late great Gary Speed.
 
If You Know Your History said:
As a blue of many decades, I am ashamed by some of the abuse that has been direxted at Dyche and our own players.

They might be under performing, but it's not as if they aren't trying or aren't bothered.

And they are only human, as we saw with the late great Gary Speed.
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Yeah. If Dyche goes he deserves a measure of respect given how he steered the club in challenging times.
 
kenada_blue said:
So you don't see it as a problem he can fix? Even though he's had history of being defensively sound?

It's like I said in the post, you can't throw negative stats about him without being able to accept the positives.
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It's about trajectory. Can he fix our defensive issues? Potentially. Is there any evidence that is currently happening? Not really. Given that the stats on all other aspects of the game under Mr Dyche are underwhelming, then he'll really have to sort the defence out and soon. You accuse me of ignoring the positives, which may be true, but a negative that you seem to be ignoring is that Sean Dyche averages one goal scored per game over his entire career. That's fine (I mean not really, but it's where we are) if you have a strong, reliable defence but if you don't it's a big problem. How long do we give him to fix the defence? Another 3 games? Another 6? Until Christmas? I appreciate that you believe he will fix it but how soon is soon enough?
 

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