2024/25 Sean Dyche

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Go a bit quiet when we lose every week though and pipe up when we get our first win in 7.

He'll get gone soon anyway so it's sound, I can live with it for now, knowing his time is coming to an end.

That’s what keeps me going mate, knowing that his time is coming to an end, it will probably be at the end of the season but that’s okay with me.

 

[DayL08]

Dyche

1. Was a footballer at a high level
2. Has done his coaching badges
3. Has managed in the championship and Premier league for a long time

My response was to someone saying hes looked at this forum and decided to change his ways.

It was a joke.

You suggesting you know as much about the game as Dyche because you're older than him is just hilarious though.

You're around this squad 5 days a week, behind the scenes, know their personalities, and crunch the data do you?

Or are you just older than him and have played a bit and watch the game?

Think we can all guess Keane’s mentality and I’m not sure what number crunching was done that led Dyche to think he should start the season. You’re giving him too much credit

 

[trueblue84]

You know what I’ve realised over the years is that intelligence is highly dimensional. As in, a person can be highly intelligent in some areas but very dumb in others.

You could think about about Wayne Rooney, who while many would probably put him (fairly or not) in the dumb footballer bracket, is able to talk very lucidly about the game, and how he would basically use psychological pre-visualisation techniques to enhance his preparation as a player.

Still yet to hit anywhere near the same heights as a manager, of course.

That's the problem, though. At best, they can be "intelligent" about the mechanics of playing football, because they are parroting what they've heard throughout their playing career. They can't build on or develop any of those ideas. Then throw in all the additional aspects of modern life and it becomes embarrassing listening to them talk.

Listening to dyche talk about the non- footballing side of the game (players mental health, psychology of a winning/losing team, potential takeovers), you realise he doesn't really understand it, which is why he repeats the same high level "middle management at a double glazing factory" buzzwords over and over again.

A reporter asked him in one of the pre-game pressers about whether he has ever used the support network available to staff/players at the club and he basically laughed at the suggestion, as if to say "I'm way too mentally strong to ever need help".

 

[davek]

There's been a consistent presence of 'Dyche lovers' in this thread when we were losing as well mate. Don't think that it's just because of a win. It's because this is the thread where we discuss Sean Dyche

"Dyche lovers" describes people who see things in the round - that he's landed here with a thankless task and no cash or even support above him from a stewardless, rudderless club to save one of the great English football institutions from relegation - at a point when the British football media and the powers that be in the Premier League were determined to see us into the Championship.

If he keeps us up for the third season running - which he will - he'll have completed a remarkable story in this club's history. To walk into this catastrophe and keep his nerve and see us through to new ownership and a new stadium is a fantastic achievement.

The stick he's getting reflects on his detractors much more than it does on him. He'll get a standing ovation at the end of the season and he'll be wished all the best by the vast majority of Everton fans for what he's managed to do here.

 

[matty1878]

"Dyche lovers" describes people who see things in the round - that he's landed here with a thankless task and no cash or even support above him from a stewardless, rudderless club to save one of the great English football institutions from relegation - at a point when the British football media and the powers that be in the Premier League were determined to see us into the Championship.

If he keeps us up for the third season running - which he will - he'll have completed a remarkable story in this club's history. To walk into this catastrophe and keep his nerve and see us through to new ownership and a new stadium is a fantastic achievement.

The stick he's getting reflects on his detractors much more than it does on him. He'll get a standing ovation at the end of the season and he'll be wished all the best by the vast majority of Everton fans for what he's managed to do here.

he went be here for the standing ovation

 

[davek]

he went be here for the standing ovation

He defo will.

 

[nsno-chris]

1. Was a footballer at a high level

No he wasn’t

 

[nsno-chris]

Dyche

1. Was a footballer at a high level
2. Has done his coaching badges
3. Has managed in the championship and Premier league for a long time?

2. So has Francis Jeffers
3. So did Tony Pulis

 

[windymiller]

Please link this up

Wee Neil loves making things up and presenting them as facts. You'll be waiting a long time for that link.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Had no choice but to play Tim and has quickly dropped him once mangala was fit-ish also Gana hasn’t trained for a while,
As his dad passed away and James garner hasn’t been fully fit either, Ndiaye should have started the first game of the season, he’s getting games, because Dyche has moved McNeil central as doucoure finished last season in horrendous form and started this season the same, I’m not sure dyche wanted to play him as one of the two midfielders, but again his hand was forced and we’ve just played Leicester and palace, I think he will get destroyed in that position against good opposition. Also lindstrom started, because Harrison had an issue, injury/illness

Let’s not make out dyche is some genius, his hand has basically been forced. Also Tim will now be 5th choice with everyone fit the same With Lindstrom, he won’t start that many games moving forward. And dragged him off at half time yesterday. How many times did he drag Harrison or McNeil off at half time last season, when they were having shockers. And there was plenty of games to choose from.

Dyche has his go to favourites, that’s not changing

No one is making out Dyche is some genius just by pointing out a fact that he’s starting players that some people said he would never play this season.

People can’t go around making binary sweeping statements like ‘he doesn’t play young players’ ‘he won’t play new signings’ ‘he won’t drop Keane’ ‘he’ll never drop his favourites’ then when he does all these things just come out with a never ending list of caveats for every single one.

Iroegbunam (who some people said wouldn’t even play) Mangala Ndiaye Lindstrom all have, and are seemingly likely, going to see significant game time in the starting 11 this season, there‘a no caveats around that, I’m sorry it doesn’t fit the convenient narrative.

 

[nsno-chris]

Wee Neil loves making things up and presenting them as facts. You'll be waiting a long time for that link.

I checked on both forums and the people they wanted, in no particular order were:
Graham Potter
David Moyes

The majority were in favour of leaving Glassner in charge

 

[NathDogg]

If his favourite lieutenant Youngy is crediting our skipper with getting a grip of them and sorting them out at half time, then what is the point of a Sean Dyche…..

 

[GrandOldSte117]

2. So has Francis Jeffers
3. So did Tony Pulis

And they're still more experienced than someone who watches the match on telly

 

[Blue peter]

Its a good point mate. There were a lot of shouts for like managers and comparisons to O'Neill this time last year and Lopetegui up to a couple of weeks ago.

Familiarity breeds contempt with a lot of our managers - its a problem amongst some of the fanbase - its actually quite fascinating how visceral it can manifest. There is a general insecurity of how we perceived in the footballing world - that's were the want to be seen to be "modern" and "new" comes from. Many confuse that with ambition.

Its evident this week with the takeover and a rush or want to change everything. On that score ill also point out 0 is going to change over night here - take over or not - nor should it - the process of recovering this club is going to take time. If TFG come in a make whole sale changes in Jan on and off the pitch - then alarm bells start ringing.

We’ve been having the conversation about recovering the club’s position now for probably what, three to four years and probably at various intervals before hand? In addition the the 30 legacy years of having a trophy drought, just weighs people down and I think that’s where the impatience comes from. BTW, I agree that it’s still going to take time and stability is still the order of the day as long as it’s justifiable due to us not being at risk of relegation.

 

[GrandOldSte117]

No he wasn’t

459 appearances as a professional footballer is a tiny percentage of what those who play football in the country will do mate. It's a high level.