Should Ferguson have stayed as a coach or should he have looked to manage elsewhere?

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Love big Duncan but if he’s got any personal aspirations he should go. I can’t believe it’s easy for him trying to build relationships with a new manager every six months. Would love to see him have a crack at management somewhere in the pyramid.
 

It's a really tough one, Dunc has become an adopted son in many ways, and Everton has become a way of life to him. Who amongst us could ever contemplate walking away from this club, even in it's darkest hour? That said it is a job and the worst thing that could happen to him is that he becomes marginalised by Frank and the other coaches, that would be truly awful for him and everyone around him. Dunc strikes me as a bit like Colin Harvey, everyone's best mate at the club but never the long term leader. The thing is, it isn't the end of the world when you do walk away, or get pushed, it only feels like it. Stay or leave, I love the guy and would follow his progress, or demise, anywhere else with muted interest (I'm not a stalker!). Dunc, don't end up being just the water boy you have many years a head of you, go and embrace them ?
 
….disappointed there’s only two options. Ferguson should simply have left the club with Lampards appointment. He continually sits alongside a series of failed managers whilst appearing to do very little in training.

He‘s a costly spare part, happy to have the run of USMFF.

i don’t get this ‘go and prove himself’ gush, prove himself for what? He’ll never be appointed permanent manager of Everton Football Club, I’m not in the least bothered by what he does when he leaves as long as he leaves.
 

brooklyn blue said:
The one constant through all the failures..How does he still have a job?
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That’s ridiculous, other constants are Kenwright, Goodison Park. the fans etc.

I don’t see a correlation between a coach who is not making or responsible for team decisions and the results.

You could also try and make a correlation between the rise of DCL and Ferguson. It’s just not possible for us to make the links because we don’t know.
 
The answer to this question depends on a number of things - very few of which ANY of us here know the answer to:

1) Is he happy just remaining a coach, without serious ambition to be a manager (nothing wrong with this if so)
2) Is he a good coach (NB not manager)? (No one here knows an answer to this question, but from what bits we do hear, it would seem that he is.
3) Did Frank Lampard Lampard want him on his coaching staff, independent of any other influence (obviously related to #2)

If the answers to these questions are yes, then I'm delighted he stayed on, and it was absolutely the right thing to do. If there's a couple of no's in there, then he should have left.

There is of course the additional possibility that the answer to (at least) #1 and/or #3 is no, but he's remaining in-role temporarily to assist the handover and while looking for other roles outside the club, which I'd have no particular problem with.
 

Depends.

If he's happy being a coach then no harm keeping him around the place, you need at least one member of staff who 'gets' the club.

On the other-hand, he can have no complaints about not getting the managerial gig in the future without going away and getting some experience.
 
If stories are to be believed he only was retained due to his relationship with Calvert. Frank understands if he is to get any short term success he must get Calvert back on track and this means keeping him happy.
 
BirkenheadBlue said:
The answer to this question depends on a number of things - very few of which ANY of us here know the answer to:

1) Is he happy just remaining a coach, without serious ambition to be a manager (nothing wrong with this if so)
2) Is he a good coach (NB not manager)? (No one here knows an answer to this question, but from what bits we do hear, it would seem that he is.
3) Did Frank Lampard Lampard want him on his coaching staff, independent of any other influence (obviously related to #2)

If the answers to these questions are yes, then I'm delighted he stayed on, and it was absolutely the right thing to do. If there's a couple of no's in there, then he should have left.

There is of course the additional possibility that the answer to (at least) #1 and/or #3 is no, but he's remaining in-role temporarily to assist the handover and while looking for other roles outside the club, which I'd have no particular problem with.
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The final paragraph sums it up for me, He is an employee who until the sacking of Benitez had a clear responsibility for coaching.

I do not believe, if he enjoys his involvement with Everton, that he can be expected to resign and leave himself with no focus until he is able to secure a manager's position. If this scnario is correct then the dignity of both him and the club are preserved rather than giving him the sack.
 
He's been part of too many failed regimes. I don't really see any positives in him hanging around anymore. The players need a fresh start and him still being there is a reminder of the past.

It's not as though he won't be able to get a new job either, but maybe that's the plan. He might just be hanging around and applying for new work while working with us. I'm sure a team in the lower leagues will be happy to give him a chance.
 

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