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Should Ferguson have stayed as a coach or should he have looked to manage elsewhere?
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d34noj
Player Valuation: £40m
Whichever winds you up the most, that's what he should do.
MisterJ
Player Valuation: £30m
If he's serious in his ambition in one day managing Everton, then he has to take the leap and go learn how to do it somewhere.
I'd imagine he has to go and do it soon. Best time would have been to have done it when his stock was high before Carlo started, but I can see there would have been an attraction in working under him
barneygumble
Player Valuation: £60m
If Fergusons ambition is to be Everton manager; then he needs to go and further his career.
If Fergusons ambition is just being at Everton, then i understand. But then why are we bothering?
It’s a dog chasing it’s tail, no answer can be right.
If Fergusons ambition is just being at Everton, then i understand. But then why are we bothering?
It’s a dog chasing it’s tail, no answer can be right.
Noisy noise annoys
Player Valuation: £70m
Man happy with his job and life, doesnt want to uproot his family and pigeons to take on a more stressful role and leaving the club he loves
Literally nothing to see here
Did he apply, or was he applied? It’s all a bit weird.
I’d support him being there for a few weeks, to help with a transfer of stewardship, but I think it’d be best if he moved on.
brieverton
Player Valuation: £50m
What Ferguson does in terms of his own career is his own concern, I'm more concerned with what he actually does and achieves at the club in terms of his role as coach.
I've read he neither liked nor spoke with Benitez. It would not have meant he automatically had to leave his position at Everton, but you would wonder after a succession of managers what added value he has brought to the squad.
He has become a common denominator in a succession of failed set-ups. That's not his fault but at the same time he has had to have played a part.
I don't think there is anything indispensable about him and if it were me, I would be a little uncomfortable if it transpired that managers feel that they are obliged to offer him a role out of well-meaning but misguided sentimentality and because a portion of the fanbase will like it.
So he gets asked to stay on each time and is seemingly glad to accept. It cannot be as the result of any clear process, it just seems to be a reflex action of the new manager. I don't think that Duncan's abilities are so great that manager after manager, all of very different backgrounds, have all reached the conclusion that he cannot be done without.
I like his passion for the club, he speaks well and does some great work with fans. He has a steady income at a place he loves and a job he likes. So in that sense, hats off to him. He doesn't have to try pastures new.
It's more what he tangibly offers to the club that's in question. We are over-laden with sentiment and jobs for the boys meaning little or no accountability.
In the final analysis if Lampard wanted him gone he would be out. With Brands and Walsh being very weak DOFs I don't think his role has been questioned much. Same goes for a succession of failed managers none of whom have been able to stamp any authority on the club.
If Lampard can assert himself and buy time, that may change.
I've read he neither liked nor spoke with Benitez. It would not have meant he automatically had to leave his position at Everton, but you would wonder after a succession of managers what added value he has brought to the squad.
He has become a common denominator in a succession of failed set-ups. That's not his fault but at the same time he has had to have played a part.
I don't think there is anything indispensable about him and if it were me, I would be a little uncomfortable if it transpired that managers feel that they are obliged to offer him a role out of well-meaning but misguided sentimentality and because a portion of the fanbase will like it.
So he gets asked to stay on each time and is seemingly glad to accept. It cannot be as the result of any clear process, it just seems to be a reflex action of the new manager. I don't think that Duncan's abilities are so great that manager after manager, all of very different backgrounds, have all reached the conclusion that he cannot be done without.
I like his passion for the club, he speaks well and does some great work with fans. He has a steady income at a place he loves and a job he likes. So in that sense, hats off to him. He doesn't have to try pastures new.
It's more what he tangibly offers to the club that's in question. We are over-laden with sentiment and jobs for the boys meaning little or no accountability.
In the final analysis if Lampard wanted him gone he would be out. With Brands and Walsh being very weak DOFs I don't think his role has been questioned much. Same goes for a succession of failed managers none of whom have been able to stamp any authority on the club.
If Lampard can assert himself and buy time, that may change.
Cameron Manning
Player Valuation: £35m
Motivate? Let’s be honest it doesn’t look like it has worked for some time.
Blue 1
Player Valuation: £70m
I think he should have moved for the sake of his own career, but it makes me laugh that pretty much every player and manager that's worked closely with him sings his praises highly but idiot fans think they somehow know better and that it's his fault we're in our current predicament. Get real.
Nobody gets on with Benitez anyway, hardly makes him exceptional. Everything about Benitez mercifully short reign was entirely dysfunctional from the moment he was interviewed for the job.
Nobody gets on with Benitez anyway, hardly makes him exceptional. Everything about Benitez mercifully short reign was entirely dysfunctional from the moment he was interviewed for the job.
toffeeblue9
Player Valuation: £35m
In all seriousness, it depends what his ambitions are.
If he ever wants to manage this club, he needs to leave. He will not get the job via an internal promotion.
There's absolutely nothing wrong wanting to be the best coach you can be. Not every coach needs to have ambitions to go into management.
I don't have a problem which road he wants to go down, but you can't have the best of both. The management job at this club will not drop into your lap.
If he ever wants to manage this club, he needs to leave. He will not get the job via an internal promotion.
There's absolutely nothing wrong wanting to be the best coach you can be. Not every coach needs to have ambitions to go into management.
I don't have a problem which road he wants to go down, but you can't have the best of both. The management job at this club will not drop into your lap.
Johnnytotal
Player Valuation: £10m
'Look at me'
Cameron Manning
Player Valuation: £35m
Maybe it’s a non verbal coaching job, a new approach never tried before!!
I watched the video. He was talking to a few of the coaches too. Clement included.
He'll be given a role. It looked like yesterday's session (which was the one in the video, btw, not today's) was pretty much just one for the cameras and everybody to get to know each other.
Did you notice that the GKs weren't doing GK drills?
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