Should we be concerned about Newcastle winning the thingy-cup?

PSB1 · Monday at 1:04 PM

Irrelevant to me who wins what. We need to get off our knees and aspire to be constantly challenging for prizes. Of course the barriers to that are high but what worthwhile achievement is easy?

MACCA75 · Monday at 1:40 PM

Alanbileysfeathercut said:
He had a shocker of a start at Newcastle iirc.
Would we have put up with that?
He's had money, more than we had.

They were rooted at the bottom, was a slow start, but only took a handful of games to improve them.

I think he’s a brilliant manager, did an incredible job at Bournemouth with limited funds. Every single Newcastle signing has worked to a decent extent since he’s been there.

Blue peter · Monday at 1:41 PM

mahermi1 said:
Nah we said that when Rush left, Fowler left, Owen left, Torres left and Suarez left. Their scouting team especially for strikers is World class, yeah they've made mistakes but not many but they have the money to make them mistakes and always find more. They always seem to land on their feet. Already Carraghers been on whinging they have no strikers, they are the top scorers in the league...they wil lash loads of money on a new striker.

They weren’t as good a team when some of those strikers played, and also they are a lot more one man dependant now with Salah in my opinion then they ever were with those. Look at what has happened since Salah has dropped in form a little, knocked out of CL and beaten in Cup final. You are correct, they do recruit and replace well…..just not sure they are ever going to have as potential an attacking force as what Salah, Mane, and Firminho was.

Joey66 · Monday at 1:44 PM

Both cups are Mickey Mouse now - the earlier rounds top teams send youth players out - in fact that cup yesterday needs reverting to how it started just for the lower leagues including the National League involved to give them more income - with no European place ....

mahermi1 · Monday at 1:55 PM

Blue peter said:
They weren’t as good a team when some of those strikers played, and also they are a lot more one man dependant now with Salah in my opinion then they ever were with those. Look at what has happened since Salah has dropped in form a little, knocked out of CL and beaten in Cup final. You are correct, they do recruit and replace well…..just not sure they are ever going to have as potential an attacking force as what Salah, Mane, and Firminho was.

Oh I agree with most of that, but also I feel this team and the supposed football they play is vastly overstated. The only reason they are top of the league is because the standard of the top 4/ 6 has dropped like a stone.

Cameron Manning · Monday at 2:03 PM

It would have bothered me a bit more if Liverpool had won, Newcastle never upset me if they win lose or draw unless they beat us!

MACCA75 · Monday at 2:15 PM

Neiler said:
Great to see to be honest, that’s what football should be about, bit of Romance.

*Allbeit owned by a petro state.

That’s not Newcastle mate

Exeter_Gently · Monday at 2:20 PM

I can genuinely say a don't give Newcastle a moment thought.

Their fans would be absolutely made up if they knew they had their own threads on Everton forum.ls.

Blue peter · Monday at 2:37 PM

mahermi1 said:
Oh I agree with most of that, but also I feel this team and the supposed football they play is vastly overstated. The only reason they are top of the league is because the standard of the top 4/ 6 has dropped like a stone.

Yes the biggest slice of luck for them this year has been City dropping like a rock

formerly manx toffee · Monday at 2:39 PM

Good luck to them. Hope we win a tin pot cup

W84 Dum Freeze · Monday at 2:40 PM

Good to see Isak make a fool of VVD for his goal.

Virgil that was "your" cup final.

Bkk Andy · Monday at 2:53 PM

ClausThomsen said:
Most of them couldn't care less about Everton either. But there will be a small number of Evertonians poring through Barcode social media looking for any reference to Everton from any account and then magnifying and redefining it as all of them being obsessed.

Every club has their supporters who for some reason need to make out that their club is somehow in the minds of everyone else. It's very weird.

For example - the Everton specific forum now has this very specific thread about Newcastle winning a game against the RS. A story that in and of itself has absolutely nothing to do with Everton. I'm not sure, though I could be wrong, that there are many Newcastle forums with a thread dedicated to Everton.

What seems more fixated there?

I spent 20 years living up there and didn't know a single person that cared about Everton. They tried to manufacture a rivalry with Liverpool but I think that was more to do with the 4-3 defeats in the Keegan years.

Llyrap · Monday at 2:58 PM

As much as I despise the fact that Saudi Arabia can use the win to Sports wash I am hardly in a position to judge.

I didn't stop supporting Everton when we had an owner closely tied to a sanctioned individual.

We now welcome with open arms owners who I suspect have no great passion specifically for Everton or "Soccer".

The whole league is obsessed with being the biggest league with the biggest revenues which is utterly irrelevant to me.

If we were the 10th biggest league in Europe I'd still be supporting Everton no more and no less.

ClausThomsen · Monday at 3:01 PM

Charro said:
Only because they would have fiddled it to make it look like there was no Saudi involvement.

Even so, the premier league should not have approved it, you’re right, but there’s nothing to be celebrated here.

Chelsea, city and now Newcastle. That’s the real death of the game.

Chelsea? Getting pumped with money that was subsequently withdrawn due to links to the Kremlin before being bought out by an American billionaire who already owns a sports team?

Glad we don't get involved in those types of shenanigans.