Sir Landon Of Donovan

[RFUS]

Why is this thread in the Everton forum? :huh:

 

[TheFinnFan]

Absolutely nothing supports those comments.

He's soon to be available for free, not's let forget in a WC year.
He's still quality
If he wants a move he likes it here
We need more right sides players, even if only for a couple of years.
He can play in a number of roles.

But hey, the ship has sailed, we have the mighty Naismith and Guaye now!

lots of facts support my view mate

 

[By god I'm blue]

People moaned about signing Alcaraz due to his age, yet want to sign a 31 year old winger.

erm........................ok

 

[pfim]

It genuinely baffles me why American Evertonians are so defensive about the MLS.

Surely the only league they should be caring and defending is the EPL, because that's the league that Everton play in?

I live in New Zealand, I don't try to even discuss the A League, let alone defend it, it has minimal interest for me, the EPL is my league and Everton is my team, despite living as far as physically can be from my home team.

Maybe it's the patriotism, I don't know. This isn't a wind up post, I genuinely don't understand if people are Donovan fans, MLS fans, or Everton fans sometimes. If this post offends anyone I apologise, but for me it's Everton and that's it.

If you support the national team, you need to care about the MLS. Simple as that.

 

[Kurt.]

UUUUURRRRGGHHHH MAAAAAAA GGAAWWWDDDD

moved to world football



Merica is gonna wake up in the morning and sh1t ha ha

 

[Arteta2391]

He is a good player.

455 pages of glory.

 

[Allezfan]

The main problem I have with the MLS as an outsider is there's no promotion-relegation system.

I honestly think that's critical to having a decent league. It's not fair that chivas are still there every year when they're not as strong as some non MLS american sides.

Promotion and relegation is crucial if you want your league to be a meritocracy. Given the whole american dream culture it surprises me that they're so against it in sport.

I work with a man who runs a football club in the tenth tier of english football and if that team got really good they'd be able to win the fa cup this year and the champions league within 15 years. (And that isn't just theoretical, wigan and wimbledon have won FA Cups having started from that position.) In the american league he could be running the best team in the country and win the open cup every year and his team would still be never given a chance to even compete in the MLS and the north american champions league.

For a league that has introduced the salary gap I desperately want european football to have it just seems obviously unfair.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

The main problem I have with the MLS as an outsider is there's no promotion-relegation system.

I honestly think that's critical to having a decent league. It's not fair that chivas are still there every year when they're not as strong as some non MLS american sides.

Promotion and relegation is crucial if you want your league to be a meritocracy. Given the whole american dream culture it surprises me that they're so against it in sport.

I work with a man who runs a football club in the tenth tier of english football and if that team got really good they'd be able to win the fa cup this year and the champions league within 15 years. (And that isn't just theoretical, wigan and wimbledon have won FA Cups having started from that position.) In the american league he could be running the best team in the country and win the open cup every year and his team would still be never given a chance to even compete in the MLS and the north american champions league.

For a league that has introduced the salary gap I desperately want european football to have it just seems obviously unfair.

I agree with pretty much all of that

 

[Kurt.]

The main problem I have with the MLS as an outsider is there's no promotion-relegation system.

I honestly think that's critical to having a decent league. It's not fair that chivas are still there every year when they're not as strong as some non MLS american sides.

Promotion and relegation is crucial if you want your league to be a meritocracy. Given the whole american dream culture it surprises me that they're so against it in sport.

I work with a man who runs a football club in the tenth tier of english football and if that team got really good they'd be able to win the fa cup this year and the champions league within 15 years. (And that isn't just theoretical, wigan and wimbledon have won FA Cups having started from that position.) In the american league he could be running the best team in the country and win the open cup every year and his team would still be never given a chance to even compete in the MLS and the north american champions league.

For a league that has introduced the salary gap I desperately want european football to have it just seems obviously unfair.

Cracking point AF.... I played for and now coach the Juniors at my Local team... Our first team play in the second tier of Welsh Football yet if the stars combined and we got unbelievably freak results we could be playing in European football every year... little town called Prestatyn ( next town along from Rhyl) played in Europe this season ( albeit qualifiers ).

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Cracking point AF.... I played for and now coach the Juniors at my Local team... Our first team play in the second tier of Welsh Football yet if the stars combined and we got unbelievably freak results we could be playing in European football every year... little town called Prestatyn ( next town along from Rhyl) played in Europe this season ( albeit qualifiers ).

I love Prestatyn, a fine place

 

[pfim]

The main problem I have with the MLS as an outsider is there's no promotion-relegation system.

I honestly think that's critical to having a decent league. It's not fair that chivas are still there every year when they're not as strong as some non MLS american sides.

Promotion and relegation is crucial if you want your league to be a meritocracy. Given the whole american dream culture it surprises me that they're so against it in sport.

I work with a man who runs a football club in the tenth tier of english football and if that team got really good they'd be able to win the fa cup this year and the champions league within 15 years. (And that isn't just theoretical, wigan and wimbledon have won FA Cups having started from that position.) In the american league he could be running the best team in the country and win the open cup every year and his team would still be never given a chance to even compete in the MLS and the north american champions league.

For a league that has introduced the salary gap I desperately want european football to have it just seems obviously unfair.

Not totally true, as the winner of the Open Cup is given a Champ League spot. The Open Cup is comprised of all USSF teams, from amateur adult teams to MLS.

I get the relegation angle, but the MLS wouldn't be doing as well as it is right now without the franchise model.

 

[Hellerad]

Feel free to move this to the MLS thread since we have gotten off topic, but I'll respond to AF.

The main problem I have with the MLS as an outsider is there's no promotion-relegation system.

I honestly think that's critical to having a decent league. It's not fair that chivas are still there every year when they're not as strong as some non MLS american sides.

Promotion and relegation is crucial if you want your league to be a meritocracy. Given the whole american dream culture it surprises me that they're so against it in sport.

I work with a man who runs a football club in the tenth tier of english football and if that team got really good they'd be able to win the fa cup this year and the champions league within 15 years. (And that isn't just theoretical, wigan and wimbledon have won FA Cups having started from that position.) In the american league he could be running the best team in the country and win the open cup every year and his team would still be never given a chance to even compete in the MLS and the north american champions league.

For a league that has introduced the salary gap I desperately want european football to have it just seems obviously unfair.

I agree with you, and I'm confident that 90% of football fans here in the States agree with you. But is isn't feasible right now (hopefully it will be in a few decades) for a couple of reasons:

1. The league is young (formed in 1996) and has only recently begun to be profitable. This means it is a pretty big risk to invest money in the infrastructure. That risk is magnified if teams risk falling out of the top tier, which is the only tier with any real chance of profit.
2. There is no billion dollar/pound/euro TV deal. In fact, advertising revenue as a whole is a fraction of what it is in England. So there is no real end game for a business man looking to invest in a lower tier club to fight for promotion.
3. Local support is growing quickly, but it isn't stable yet. Americans don't have generations of local support to keep filling the stands every week. Relegated teams in England may take a hit on attendance, but it doesn't evaporate. I don't think anybody really knows how relegation would affect a club over here.
4. The United States is HUGE. Travel expenses would kill lower league teams unless they were completely regional. Even then, you would have to have regional winners compete nationally for the promotion spots. That could make for a nice Americanized playoff system, and it could also result in huge regional disparity (much like NCAA football).
5. MLS is a single entity structure. Club owners own a % of the league. I imagine a system could be created to preserve that, but there is a chance the entire structure would fall apart with a promotion system. With that said, if 1-4 can be resolved, I'm all for getting rid of the single entity structure.

I hope we see it someday. The NASL is growing quickly, but I have no clue how the financial structure of the USL and NASL can be compatible with the MLS one-entity structure.

 

[DualityNSNO]

Absolutely nothing supports those comments.

He's soon to be available for free, not's let forget in a WC year.
He's still quality
If he wants a move he likes it here
We need more right sides players, even if only for a couple of years.
He can play in a number of roles.

But hey, the ship has sailed, we have the mighty Naismith and Guaye now!

He's also 31, by the time his contract's over I think he'd be 32.
People were raging over signing Alcaraz cuz he's 30.

As much as I loved him - I'm glad this ship has sailed.

 

[Allezfan]

He's also 31, by the time his contract's over I think he'd be 32.
People were raging over signing Alcaraz cuz he's 30.

As much as I loved him - I'm glad this ship has sailed.

I was raging over alcaraz because he was another old player bought in to block progress for our young players (Duffy primarily).

If Kennedy starts a few games and looks as promising as duffy did, you'd get the same response. Do we really want another 30 odd year old blocking his progress into the side?

But as Kennedy is very much an unknown quality I'm less adamant on that point.

 

[DualityNSNO]

I was raging over alcaraz because he was another old player bought in to block progress for our young players (Duffy primarily).

If Kennedy starts a few games and looks as promising as duffy did, you'd get the same response. Do we really want another 30 odd year old blocking his progress into the side?

But as Kennedy is very much an unknown quality I'm less adamant on that point.

I know, I wasn't particularly pleased with blocking youngster's progress as well to be fair, but seeing as we have a manager who plays 3 CB's, I'd say that it's a good thing to have some backup, you know. No one is safe from an injury crisis after all.

But yeah, hope Kennedy gets a few games and proves to be good tbf, I'd rather we have someone young/our own academy player breaking through, than a 31/32 year old.